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Acuracy
October 4th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Made a few tweaks and worked on the driver mod a bit and got closer to where I want to be. Ran a 9.0 @ 80mph - 10.5psi, beat a new mustang gt, a modded skittle and my dad in his S2000(he bested a 9.5 @ 76).

03scgt
October 4th, 2008, 12:20 AM
not bad man,your getting closer to those 8's

05SRT4GR
October 4th, 2008, 12:26 AM
good job man! Congrats

gabe18t
October 4th, 2008, 01:16 AM
nice times bro

Acuracy
October 4th, 2008, 01:46 AM
Thanks guys, yea this is more what I was expecting to run last week. I was a little upset... just a .01 faster and I woulda been in the 8's!! The quicker I get the more I want to do lol. I havn't modded a car in a long time... I forgot how addicting it is. I've taken over a second off the stock 1/4 mile time and over 2 off a base miata... i'm wondering if I want to go for a full 3.

gabe18t
October 4th, 2008, 11:54 AM
go for the 3!

02vortec
October 4th, 2008, 03:19 PM
get some way to get it tuned some meth and another couple psi and see where that gets you. I bet it will help for something

oh yeah... a GT28 also :D

Acuracy
October 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Yea the GT28 is a very popular swap for our cars, they get great response and can make ALOT more power than the tiny stock turbo is capable of. I'm impressed i'm making these times on the stock retarded ecu and barely above stock psi. The only way for me to get tuned is to piggyback with a megesquirt or do a full replacement with something like a hydra nemesis(most common one swapped in my car) but it's hard to justify the cost for the relatively modest gains i'll get. Some people have just upgraded the stock compressor wheel and with the engine management they're making 240-250whp and running 12's... gah so tempting... I may have to start saving!

03scgt
October 4th, 2008, 04:04 PM
I'm sorry unless you plan on going all out don't do it.a halfassed turbo car will be no fun and will break alot.if your going for 12's plan for 11's.that way everything will last longer.that's the one thing I learned

Acuracy
October 4th, 2008, 04:21 PM
I'm sorry unless you plan on going all out don't do it.a halfassed turbo car will be no fun and will break alot.if your going for 12's plan for 11's.that way everything will last longer.that's the one thing I learned

Oh, no I completely agree. I don't do things wrong on my car, it's not worth the power gain to risk shitty reliability. I could push 14psi with my current setup and PROBABLY be pretty safe but that's not how I do things(hence the 10.5psi). The most ghetto thing i've done is just replace the stock airbox with a cone filter and that's because the airbox was the most restrictive part of the setup and replacing the piping too only shows small gains. The setup I was talking about is pretty simple, and by far not a high strung setup. 15psi on the larger turbo or the stock turbo with the rebuilt compressor(people have this setup and over 100k miles, that's plenty reliable for me), 550cc injectors, hydra ecu with a conservative map = 250whp and 12's. The stock drivetrain on the MSM is far stronger than the stock miata and the tranny, diff and even stock clutch have been proven to be able to handle that kind of power. Sadly, the most expensive part of all of that is the hydra...

Wow... didn't mean to write that much...

03scgt
October 4th, 2008, 04:28 PM
LOL I diddnt mean it like your doing it halfassed.sorry if it came out sounding like that .I. Was just saying once you hit 12's you'll want more.I would get the ems so you can tune it or can't you use a safc? Then I would get it tuned with meth and and a set of cams.do any of the guys swap cams to say factory cams from Another model?.I know alot of the cobra guys swap to a set of ford gt cams because there cheap and provide decent power gains.

Fo's 5.0
October 4th, 2008, 05:19 PM
Made a few tweaks and worked on the driver mod a bit and got closer to where I want to be. Ran a 9.0 @ 80mph - 10.5psi, beat a new mustang gt, a modded skittle and my dad in his S2000(he bested a 9.5 @ 76).

I was out there last night, I think I saw you run and it sounded pretty damn good..

Acuracy
October 4th, 2008, 05:38 PM
LOL I diddnt mean it like your doing it halfassed.sorry if it came out sounding like that .I. Was just saying once you hit 12's you'll want more.I would get the ems so you can tune it or can't you use a safc? Then I would get it tuned with meth and and a set of cams.do any of the guys swap cams to say factory cams from Another model?.I know alot of the cobra guys swap to a set of ford gt cams because there cheap and provide decent power gains.

Oh lol my bad, it's cool. I'm not sure why, but i'm pretty sure with my ecu the only way to tune is to either use the MS piggyback or straight up swap out. Surprisingly I only know of one MSM that is running meth and he's doing stage 1. Most people don't do cams or meth on MSM's, no need to in order to just get to 250. Actually I only know of one guy who's done cams, he's gone with a near full build up was pushing upper 3xxwhp. Truthfully though, I don't know much about meth as i've never used it.

I was out there last night, I think I saw you run and it sounded pretty damn good..

Thanks :D I saw you out there too, thing looks pretty good. I can't remember what you ran but I know I was impressed(I think it was you anyway lol) :thumbup:

Fo's 5.0
October 4th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Oh lol my bad, it's cool. I'm not sure why, but i'm pretty sure with my ecu the only way to tune is to either use the MS piggyback or straight up swap out. Surprisingly I only know of one MSM that is running meth and he's doing stage 1. Most people don't do cams or meth on MSM's, no need to in order to just get to 250. Actually I only know of one guy who's done cams, he's gone with a near full build up was pushing upper 3xxwhp. Truthfully though, I don't know much about meth as i've never used it.



Thanks :D I saw you out there too, thing looks pretty good. I can't remember what you ran but I know I was impressed(I think it was you anyway lol) :thumbup:

Nah my shit was not right last night it was breaking up a bit, It ran a 6.09 with a crappy 60ft and broke up.... Very fustrating, Need to do some checking up on the ignition.

03scgt
October 4th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Nah my shit was not right last night it was breaking up a bit, It ran a 6.09 with a crappy 60ft and broke up.... Very fustrating, Need to do some checking up on the ignition.


lol i wish i was disappointed with a low low 6.good luck with it

mcsmike
October 5th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Sorry about leaving you hanging at the track lateral. Right after we talked my coolant temps skyrocketed. Low coolant ftl! Ran a 9.34 though!

Acuracy
October 5th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Pretty good man, what did you say your mph were 76? Don't worry about it, I went out more to show my dad up in his s2000 lol. Did you see that 911 run? He started off running a 9.5(lmao) and then eventually got it down into the 7's as he figured out how to drive it. Clearly his first time out in a most likely brand new car. Pretty funny watching it bog off the line and run the same time as my dads s2k lol. Clearly at a MUCH higher mph though.

USCG
October 5th, 2008, 08:07 PM
when I did bradenton my 1/8 mile was a 9.01 with the azenis on.

Acuracy
October 5th, 2008, 08:31 PM
Yea I know we're pretty close, what was your mph at the 1/8th? I think we're very close all the way through the 1/4. I'm gonna try to pick up a bov or forge recirc valve in a couple weeks and once it fixes my boost leak I should FINALLY be able to break 8's and 13's. I might be high 13.9 right now but won't know until I make it to bradenton, but odds are that won't happen until after I get it installed anyway.

USCG
October 5th, 2008, 09:28 PM
I dont know the 1/8th mph it was a 1/4 track. But when I get my car back ill go to IRR with ya.

Acuracy
October 5th, 2008, 09:38 PM
If it says your 1/8 mile it should say the mph too. Sounds good, how long the repairs supposed to take?

USCG
October 6th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Should have it back next week so if all goes well IRR again on the 17th.

9.09 @79.51mph putting me at a 14.01 @ 98.47mph I overlooked the speed for the 1/8 cause I didn't know it was going to be on there.

Acuracy
October 6th, 2008, 03:33 PM
I'm impressed by it's ability to launch. I only barely etched you out by .1 in the 1/8th, and I think we're very comparable all the way up through the 1/4 so I should be at about a 13.9-14 flat.

Fo's 5.0
October 6th, 2008, 09:39 PM
I dont know the 1/8th mph it was a 1/4 track. But when I get my car back ill go to IRR with ya.


Lol wellyou have to run threw the 1/8 mile to get to the 1/4 mile.. The time slip should show 1/8 mile time

DC2 T3G
October 8th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Made a few tweaks and worked on the driver mod a bit and got closer to where I want to be. Ran a 9.0 @ 80mph - 10.5psi, beat a new mustang gt, a modded skittle and my dad in his S2000(he bested a 9.5 @ 76).

ur dad with driver mod should be around 8.8 to 8.9... when i had the s2k i was consistant 8.7 8.8

Acuracy
October 8th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Naa, not in his car. He's only trapping at 76... there's no way that's good for mid to high 8's. I don't know if yours was a freak or something but any s2k's i've seen consistently run mid-low 9's. I've never raced an s2000 and lost to it with my current mods.

Sloww
October 8th, 2008, 04:47 PM
i really want to run another s2k the last one i raced was julios and i lost by like a car and a half

STiDriven
October 8th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Julio's s2k was da fr3@k! :rofl1:

Acuracy
October 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM
i really want to run another s2k the last one i raced was julios and i lost by like a car and a half

Would be pointless, you're faster than me from a roll and I beat them all around. Apparently with the exception of his lol.

Julio's s2k was da fr3@k! :rofl1:

I couldn't remember who's that was lol.

DC2 T3G
October 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM
lol my car was a freak. but with a stock s2k.. i can break into 8's... the s2k is very hard to drive especially if ur trying to drag race it... im sure u can ask scott about that... i had intake and exhaust on my s2k and thats it and i was in the 8's all day :) with 18's

Acuracy
October 9th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Yea he has a CAI on his, as I said i'm not doubting that you ran that with your car(especially now since I know which one was yours) but running 8's at 76-77mph just isn't possible. Not for a S2000 at least.

03scgt
October 9th, 2008, 11:51 AM
julio had the driver mod yo

Acuracy
October 9th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Driver mod is great, but if you don't have the mph to get there you can't get the ET.

DC2 T3G
October 9th, 2008, 02:04 PM
dude believe CHU CAN DO IT!!! i think i was running 8's at like 78mph or so... i really dont remember....

03scgt
October 9th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Driver mod is great, but if you don't have the mph to get there you can't get the ET.

look at it like this.there cars out there doing 8's at 130.thats a 10 second trap speed becuase they dont have the top end power they need.mph doesnt mean alot unless from a roll.at the track its all about hooking up and running consistent.theres plenty of cars out there that do this.

DC2 T3G
October 9th, 2008, 02:13 PM
look at it like this.there cars out there doing 8's at 130.thats a 10 second trap speed becuase they dont have the top end power they need.mph doesnt mean alot unless from a roll.at the track its all about hooking up and running consistent.theres plenty of cars out there that do this.

look at my teg for example.. i run an 8.5 off slicks at around 95-7mph... cuz i cant hook up... i drop about a second off the time with slicks... but im trapping a little slower.....

STiDriven
October 9th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Queż You trap slower with slicks?

I would think because you are puting the power to the ground sooner in the run that you would get a high trap. This drag racing thing is beyond me.

DC2 T3G
October 9th, 2008, 02:18 PM
i dont freakin know how it works... i think i got a better 60ft and reaction so i think it was like 1 mph slower nothing crazy lol

Acuracy
October 9th, 2008, 03:12 PM
look at it like this.there cars out there doing 8's at 130.thats a 10 second trap speed becuase they dont have the top end power they need.mph doesnt mean alot unless from a roll.at the track its all about hooking up and running consistent.theres plenty of cars out there that do this.

Yes, I know what you're saying but what I said above still applies. There are times you just can't reach because your car can't get there quick enough. Ex. a base wrx can launch and not spin at all but won't run 7's simply because it's not moving fast enough to get there at that time. Same applies to any car if it hooks up right, you still need to be going quick enough to get there for 8's and you just can't do it at mid 70's mph.