tunning question...need help

[spicychicken014]

hey guys,, does anyone know John Vega and where his shop is. Phone number would be great.
Thanks, guys

[DjNando]

I'm pretty sure he is in speed clinic

407-348-2300 - Se Habla Español!

SpeedClinic
1030 E Carroll St
Kissimmee FL, 34744

FYI...I know a cheaper tuner locally.

[dscivicdx]

Primary Dyno Located at: Phearable.net - Blue Moon Automotive
5144 US Highway 19 New Port Richey, FL 34652


you can get his contact info from his website.

[spicychicken014]

DjNando... anyone else..

is here a tuner around here that you guys trust and does good work.

[DjNando]

PM'd

[96ekhatch]

I have heard some super bad things about john vegas tuning. I would let a local do it you can pick the 50 or 50. Emilio vs todd,lol. Flip a coin

[dscivicdx]

i have heard super bad things about almost every honda tuner in florida and the us.
i know john and he is a really great guy, but he is far away, so its pretty inconvenient to get to him and he is a little expenive if he comes to you.

[spicychicken014]

thanks.. im going to give Emilio a shot this weekend

[03scgt]

I have heard some super bad things about john vegas tuning. I would let a local do it you can pick the 50 or 50. Emilio vs todd,lol. Flip a coin

hmm that's a difficult choice.a decent tune from emilio or spun rod bearings and a crap tune from Todd.Todd is a nice guy but I don't think he's cut out to be a tuner

[VTC_WS6]

How exactly did 'Todd' spin rod bearings on a tune?

[96ekhatch]

^^^ right.

I have heard good and bad about both todd and emilio. Todd tuned my car and it has ran for good for a long time. I have seen a car tuned by him blow but that car was beat on for weeks untuned and was probably already gone. Emilio I am sure does good work but i like a dyno with graphs. I know a kid who took his car to john vega and he messed it all up. Cut and changed wires and sent a car back worse than it showed up. I would go to todd again he seems like a cool dude and has tuned 2 different cars for me and both ran fine.

[spicychicken014]

Emilio said that after he street tunes it he will put it on a dyno to check everything so this way i only have to pay for like a hour of dyno time.

[03scgt]

How exactly did 'Todd' spin rod bearings on a tune?



To my knowledge he hasn't.what he does do is not listen,if you car redlined at 6 he would take it to 7k.more than one person has had this problem with him.on the other side there are people on here that run his tunes and have their car dynoed by him and have no problems.for one I would never have him touch or dyno my car even if he did domestics.not because he's a bad guy but because I don't like going to a shop were you have to sign a waiver saying he's not responsible if he blows your motor.

[VTC_WS6]

but because I don't like going to a shop were you have to sign a waiver saying he's not responsible if he blows your motor.

Well, in all fairness to the tuner there are a number of circumstances and other occurances in operation that he has no control over, yet come to bear when attemtping to extract the most power available from a motor. These circumstances could very easily place the engine beyond it's operational capacity and yet has little if anything to do with the tuner and/or his input, needless to say however, the tuner's reputation is what suffers the consequences regardless to the actual cause or outcome.

I never made anybody sign a waiver, but lord knows I proabably shoud have and I certainly can't fault a professional from abstaining from responsibility for something which in all proabability was not in his control.

*shrug* just my .02

[03scgt]

Well, in all fairness to the tuner there are a number of circumstances and other occurances in operation that he has no control over, yet come to bear when attemtping to extract the most power available from a motor. These circumstances could very easily place the engine beyond it's operational capacity and yet has little if anything to do with the tuner and/or his input, needless to say however, the tuner's reputation is what suffers the consequences regardless to the actual cause or outcome.

I never made anybody sign a waiver, but lord knows I proabably shoud have and I certainly can't fault a professional from abstaining from responsibility for something which in all proabability was not in his control.

*shrug* just my .02

I completely understand that.alot of shops require you to sign a waiver when getting work done.where I take my car no waiver is needed because the tuner will fix any problem that stems from his tune or his work.that shows me they have alot of confidence in their work and want the best reputation they can get.i know Todd did billys integra and he beats the hell out of it and it ran .his reputation is the one thing I think scares most people away.but when you over rev cars after people tell you to take it to a certain rpm and stop is just plain stupid.things like that give you a bad rep and it's one of the reasons I won't even put my car on the dyno there.

[96ekhatch]

yeah i would ony trust him with a honda,lol. I like to go to a tuner that actually owns the same car. When he tuned my srt4 he was a little confused so i ended up doing the fuel pulling,lol

[StrictlyBusiness]

I wouldnt go to Vega I have heard bad things but its everyone elses opinion. He tuned 2 of my friends cars and only 1 came out good.

I would go with John Solero from Modified Racing in North Port, Florida. Awesome work and is a great guy and will help with stuff other tuners dont do. He puts a 90 day warranty on tunes to fix "little things" that may change. If you blow it up, thats not his fault but his warranty covers anything he can fix through the computer like if your idle changes, cold start etc. His prices are cheaper then anywhere else and does a awesome job! He has yet to "blow up a car" and I know plenty of people who were tuned by him years ago and their cars are still running . He has tuned anything from 200-700whp. Pm me if you would like more info.

As for Speed Clinic and the others mentioned, its up to you obviously. I know Columbia tuned a car that had potential to easily dip into the 500whp range but didnt even break 400whp. I havent even heard of Emilio or whatever else and thats strange because I know or heard about almost any tuner in Florida.

[DjNando]

^^^ I highly doubt that your boy there is cheaper than Emilio. You probably have not heard about him because you are in PC. I think 95% of the HOnda owners down here know who he is.

Either way, I always say to go to the tuner you personaly feel most comfortable with and that you have received good feeback from. And for the record...EMILIO WILL TUNE ON A DYNO AS LONG AS YOU PAY FOR DYNO TIME!!!

[DjNando]

hmm that's a difficult choice.a decent tune from emilio or spun rod bearings and a crap tune from Todd.Todd is a nice guy but I don't think he's cut out to be a tuner

This had me Rofling...Ant do you mind if I make this my sig???

[dscivicdx]

Either way, I always say to go to the tuner you personaly feel most comfortable with and that you have received good feeback from.

thats about the best advice you can get right there.
make sure your car is ready to be tuned also. it saves everyone time and aggrivation.

[03scgt]

This had me Rofling...Ant do you mind if I make this my sig???



Lol nah man go ahead.

[pdexta]

Todd did billys integra and he beats the hell out of it and it ran

Haha, past tense. I'm sure there is someone out there, but I've never heard of any car that Todd has ever tuned that hasn't blown up.

Video of the 6psi Supercharged S2k (tuned my me) vs the 8psi Turbo S2k (tuned by Todd). Julio then beat the Turbo S2k in his NA S2k. The turbo car blew up a week later, and just a couple weeks after installing and tuning the turbo.

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[03scgt]

LOL well that was basically my point,I was just trying to be nice about it

[Acuracy]

lol fuck that sucks...

[03scgt]

Wonder how long before Todd gets signed on and starts bitching

[VTC_WS6]

Video of the 6psi Supercharged S2k (tuned my me) vs the 8psi Turbo S2k (tuned by Todd). Julio then beat the Turbo S2k in his NA S2k. The turbo car blew up a week later, and just a couple weeks after installing and tuning the turbo.


Now let me just preface this by saying I know nothing of Todd or his practices so I'm in no position to defend him, but this goes to what I was saying earlier. Do you know specifically of that S2000 and it's condition before it was turboed? Do you know what caused it to blow? Do you know what transpired in between the tune?

I've 'seen' extremley knowledgeable tuners work on cars only to later see them pop on the dyno or at the track, at which point do you attribute this to mechanical failure vs. improper tuning or management? Just seems again like a setup for a tuner to take a fall....

[03scgt]

Couldnt have been treated worse than scotts.Scott drove the hell out of his

[pdexta]

Now let me just preface this by saying I know nothing of Todd or his practices so I'm in no position to defend him, but this goes to what I was saying earlier. Do you know specifically of that S2000 and it's condition before it was turboed? Do you know what caused it to blow? Do you know what transpired in between the tune?

I've 'seen' extremley knowledgeable tuners work on cars only to later see them pop on the dyno or at the track, at which point do you attribute this to mechanical failure vs. improper tuning or management? Just seems again like a setup for a tuner to take a fall....

I understand what you're saying, you make a great point. It's just everytime I hear something about him, it's bad news. If someone has had their car tuned by Todd, or if they know someone that has had their car tuned by him, that has not blown up please post. Maybe people just don't talk when they get a good tune.

[pdexta]

Couldnt have been treated worse than scotts.Scott drove the hell out of his

Haha, wat choo talkin bout? :D

[Acuracy]

Yes, but IIRC didn't scott's have all kinds of problems? :P

[pdexta]

Yes, but IIRC didn't scott's have all kinds of problems? :P

I broke 2 axles, blew 2 differentials, and my clutch went out all b/c I drive like a jackass, but that just goes to show how hard it is to blow up that motor, haha.

[Victor]

I broke 2 axles, blew 2 differentials, and my clutch went out all b/c I drive like a jackass, but that just goes to show how hard it is to blow up that motor, haha.

I miss the Supra killer.

[96ekhatch]

I have seen todd dyno cars and to say he beats the hell out of it is crazy. He does wot pulls. So when your racing and doing hard launchs and wot shifting your going easy on a car? I beat on it way more than he did dynoing it. Problem is its all hear say and nobody really know what the motor has gone threw. To say he tuned a 8psi s2k and u tuned a 6psi s2k and the 6psi car run do they have same turbos,same exhaust?? Me and julio are both tuned on like 12psi and he dynos 80 hp more than me both stock gsr motor. His turbos is 4 times mine though. And anyone who builds a car and doesnt think it could blow any minute is a idiot. I have seen n/a motors full built blow up with under 5k on them. I think it would be impossible to find a tuner that hasnt worked on a car that blew up some time after...

[Acuracy]

I broke 2 axles, blew 2 differentials, and my clutch went out all b/c I drive like a jackass, but that just goes to show how hard it is to blow up that motor, haha.

lol yea

[pdexta]

I have seen todd dyno cars and to say he beats the hell out of it is crazy. He does wot pulls. So when your racing and doing hard launchs and wot shifting your going easy on a car? I beat on it way more than he did dynoing it. Problem is its all hear say and nobody really know what the motor has gone threw. To say he tuned a 8psi s2k and u tuned a 6psi s2k and the 6psi car run do they have same turbos,same exhaust?? Me and julio are both tuned on like 12psi and he dynos 80 hp more than me both stock gsr motor. His turbos is 4 times mine though. And anyone who builds a car and doesnt think it could blow any minute is a idiot. I have seen n/a motors full built blow up with under 5k on them. I think it would be impossible to find a tuner that hasnt worked on a car that blew up some time after...

Maybe you should reread the thread b/c you don't seem to have comprehended much, if anything, that has been posted.

[03scgt]

I have seen todd dyno cars and to say he beats the hell out of it is crazy. He does wot pulls. So when your racing and doing hard launchs and wot shifting your going easy on a car? I beat on it way more than he did dynoing it. Problem is its all hear say and nobody really know what the motor has gone threw. To say he tuned a 8psi s2k and u tuned a 6psi s2k and the 6psi car run do they have same turbos,same exhaust?? Me and julio are both tuned on like 12psi and he dynos 80 hp more than me both stock gsr motor. His turbos is 4 times mine though. And anyone who builds a car and doesnt think it could blow any minute is a idiot. I have seen n/a motors full built blow up with under 5k on them. I think it would be impossible to find a tuner that hasnt worked on a car that blew up some time after...


so what your saying is you diddnt read this thread.nowhere in here did it say he abuses cars,it did say that he doesnt know what a redline is.he also doesnt know how to listen if you tell him not to take it past a certain point.you also dont seem to notice that one s2k was sc'd the other was turbo.the sc'd one was on less boost and still beat the turbod one.scotts car was a stock exhaust with test pipes i believe(correct me if im wrong scott) while the turbo car was running more boost with a full exhaust.if both cars were on the same boost and setup the turbo car would make more power no matter what.also the turbo car should have got a jump on scott because with a centri blower you dont see peak hp until peak rpm.while the turbo car was probably making peak boost/power by 3500-4000k rpms.scott tuned his car himself with no prior experience while todd tuned the turbo car with all his skills.seems to me a poor tune did play a big factor into the turbo s2k's demise.not saying it was the sole reason but lets looks at the facts.scott beat the living hell out of his car it basically started up in vTAK and never left it even on short rides.he did offroad with it,he did 9k rpm launches at autocross with it.he basically flogged it and it never broke.i also believe it had fairly high miles and was a older model.the turbo one was newer had less miles and a "pro" tune.it diddnt last even a fraction of scotts car's life.im not saying todd cant build a car or motor.i have never heard of him doing it or something being wrong with it.i do however know that he should not be a tuner.just because you can afford a dyno doesnt mean you should tune a car.

[DjNando]

Shut up Josh.

[StrictlyBusiness]

EMILIO WILL TUNE ON A DYNO AS LONG AS YOU PAY FOR DYNO TIME!!!

John charges a flat rate of $375 and INCLUDES dyno time.

[DjNando]

Like I said, Emilio has the lowest price for tuning.

[spicychicken014]

ill be swinging by best wheel tomorrow to get a new tire put on. and friday i should be with Emilio to see what he can do. Is anyone going to be at the meet tomorrow?

[03scgt]

ill be swinging by best wheel tomorrow to get a new tire put on. and friday i should be with Emilio to see what he can do. Is anyone going to be at the meet tomorrow?


i think most of us will be just check the thread in the news section sometime tomorrow

[StrictlyBusiness]

Like I said, Emilio has the lowest price for tuning.

You get what you pay for. Dyno time in Ft Myers is how much?

[DjNando]

You get what you pay for. Dyno time in Ft Myers is how much?


You get what you pay for??? Have you ever tuned with him before??? Don't knock someone when you dont know shit about them. Oh and he gets Dyno time at Einox for $65/hr. just an FYI.

[dscivicdx]

You get what you pay for??? Have you ever tuned with him before??? Don't knock someone when you dont know shit about them. Oh and he gets Dyno time at Einox for $65/hr. just an FYI.

i will keep quiet, but i will say that eric shouldnt knock anyones choice of tuner.

[DjNando]

i will keep quiet

No, please go ahead, I would like to hear your input.

[pdexta]

so what your saying is you diddnt read this thread.nowhere in here did it say he abuses cars,it did say that he doesnt know what a redline is.he also doesnt know how to listen if you tell him not to take it past a certain point.you also dont seem to notice that one s2k was sc'd the other was turbo.the sc'd one was on less boost and still beat the turbod one.scotts car was a stock exhaust with test pipes i believe(correct me if im wrong scott) while the turbo car was running more boost with a full exhaust.if both cars were on the same boost and setup the turbo car would make more power no matter what.also the turbo car should have got a jump on scott because with a centri blower you dont see peak hp until peak rpm.while the turbo car was probably making peak boost/power by 3500-4000k rpms.scott tuned his car himself with no prior experience while todd tuned the turbo car with all his skills.seems to me a poor tune did play a big factor into the turbo s2k's demise.not saying it was the sole reason but lets looks at the facts.scott beat the living hell out of his car it basically started up in vTAK and never left it even on short rides.he did offroad with it,he did 9k rpm launches at autocross with it.he basically flogged it and it never broke.i also believe it had fairly high miles and was a older model.the turbo one was newer had less miles and a "pro" tune.it diddnt last even a fraction of scotts car's life.im not saying todd cant build a car or motor.i have never heard of him doing it or something being wrong with it.i do however know that he should not be a tuner.just because you can afford a dyno doesnt mean you should tune a car.

Yeahh... You pretty much got it. I did have a catback, but it was a pretty conservative dual, most people didn't realize it had an exhaust on it and I didn't gain much (if any) power from it, just a little sound. He was running a 3" single. Mine was an '01 with 90k on it, and had been boosted about 70k miles. His was an '03 (not sure on miles, but I'd assume it was significantly lower as most people that own S2000's don't daily them) and it was boosted for 2 weeks.

Also... I never once launched my car over 8500rpms :tongue:

[dscivicdx]

No, please go ahead, I would like to hear your input.

i will pm you about it.

[DjNando]

^^^ Nice to have that info handy. Thanks man!

[dscivicdx]

^^^ Nice to have that info handy. Thanks man!

:SolidStraight:

[StrictlyBusiness]

You get what you pay for??? Have you ever tuned with him before??? Don't knock someone when you dont know shit about them. Oh and he gets Dyno time at Einox for $65/hr. just an FYI.

I never knocked on nobody. If he is such a great tuner like you say he is, why would he be dirt cheap? I NEVER SAID the guy couldnt tune, its not my fault you took it how you did. Oh and John gets it for $50 at Einox FYI, and my car will be dynoed for free at Enoix.

[DjNando]

I never knocked on nobody. If he is such a great tuner like you say he is, why would he be dirt cheap? I NEVER SAID the guy couldnt tune, its not my fault you took it how you did. Oh and John gets it for $50 at Einox FYI, and my car will be dynoed for free at Enoix.

Okay??? I don't even understand what getting your car dynord for free has to do with anything but its whatever bro. I won't argue with you. I know what I know about my boy and I know what I know about your famous John Solero. Lets keep it at that. :wave:

[dscivicdx]

I never knocked on nobody. If he is such a great tuner like you say he is, why would he be dirt cheap? I NEVER SAID the guy couldnt tune, its not my fault you took it how you did. Oh and John gets it for $50 at Einox FYI, and my car will be dynoed for free at Enoix.

lol... did you ever think that there are people out there that dont do it for the money? maybe he just likes helping people out and enjoys what he does. for not carrying any liability, most tuners are way overpriced for what they do anyhow.

[DjNando]

^^^ Thank you. Enough said.

[spicychicken014]

Im meeting up Emilio later today to give him the emanage program and tomorrow we will tune and dyno :) :)

[DjNando]

^^^ Cool, enjoy.

[StrictlyBusiness]

lol... did you ever think that there are people out there that dont do it for the money? maybe he just likes helping people out and enjoys what he does. for not carrying any liability, most tuners are way overpriced for what they do anyhow.

Yea, Like John doing my entire build for free because he knows Im strapped for cash, Or the 1000 trips he makes to Tampa to tweak cars for free and pays for his own gas, or when he tuned a friend of a friend for free because he needed it so badly. Also, Like the 5 times we went to lakeland for free to finish tuning a car because shit kept breaking on it and recently completely switch a crx to pgfi, boosted it tuned it for a paint job but the guy fucked him over dipped out and stole his real time programmer. Rumors are rumors and thats fine but I know he does more then just "tune". I DOUBT anyone else would sit on a dyno for 8 hours FIXING a car for 100% free. Any tuner would tell you to fix it and bring it back.

[DjNando]

^^^ Sounds like a stand up guy.

[dscivicdx]

Yea, Like John doing my entire build for free because he knows Im strapped for cash, Or the 1000 trips he makes to Tampa to tweak cars for free and pays for his own gas, or when he tuned a friend of a friend for free because he needed it so badly. Also, Like the 5 times we went to lakeland for free to finish tuning a car because shit kept breaking on it and recently completely switch a crx to pgfi, boosted it tuned it for a paint job but the guy fucked him over dipped out and stole his real time programmer. Rumors are rumors and thats fine but I know he does more then just "tune". I DOUBT anyone else would sit on a dyno for 8 hours FIXING a car for 100% free. Any tuner would tell you to fix it and bring it back.

i know that your just trying to get johns name out there and recommend him to drum up some business, but if you got all that stuff for free and he helps people out for free, why were you wondering why fernando's friend was willing to tune for a low price?

[StrictlyBusiness]

i know that your just trying to get johns name out there and recommend him to drum up some business, but if you got all that stuff for free and he helps people out for free, why were you wondering why fernando's friend was willing to tune for a low price?

Because John has a flat rate thats cheaper then MOST tuners I should say. Cheaper then Alpha,CFT,Vega any of those and he pays for dyno time but when it comes to helping people its a different story. Helping and tuning are 2 different things. I dont need to drum up business I was just adding my .02 he has enough work as it.

[Victor]

Because John has a flat rate thats cheaper then MOST tuners I should say. Cheaper then Alpha,CFT,Vega any of those and he pays for dyno time but when it comes to helping people its a different story. Helping and tuning are 2 different things. I dont need to drum up business I was just adding my .02 he has enough work as it.

Have youheard any bad things about Alpha? I am hoping to have my car tuned by him when it is ready cause he has a bunch of experience with Supras.

[dscivicdx]

Have youheard any bad things about Alpha? I am hoping to have my car tuned by him when it is ready cause he has a bunch of experience with Supras.

john is a real nice guy and if i was using aem, he would be my first choice.

[StrictlyBusiness]

Have youheard any bad things about Alpha? I am hoping to have my car tuned by him when it is ready cause he has a bunch of experience with Supras.

John is a very cool person and of course I heard bad things, there is bad things about EVERY tuner, but If I was getting a Supra tuned Id go to TITAN but I have seen what Alpha did with supras and they are nasty.

[DjNando]

Well SpicyChicken got his car worked on yesturday. Please post the outcome of that. Thanks.

[spicychicken014]

hey guy.. weLL Emilio work wonders on my car yesterday. Not only did he do a great tune but he did some custom work with my injectors that work awsome.. I will be at the show tonight to see guys can see it.

[DjNando]

Glad to hear that everything worked out for you bro. It was good meeting you yesturday. This is a cool guy.

I love the way the custom injectors came out. You need to take pics and post it on the Accord forums. All in all, Emilio was able to save Anthony a good chunk of change and you only spent a couple of bucks for fabrication.