Appointment set for Dyno tune

[OkiNutsEP3]

So I got an appointment to get my car tuned on the dyno Monday at 11(Relentless RPM). I figured I'd get it done there, seeing as though they are members here, and have had some pretty cool cars come out of there.

Fernando......I have nothing against Emilio, but I would much rather have a dedicated shop do it. I'm sure he would do a good job, but I'm not so positive on the whole Einox thing yet.


So hopefully, all of my gremlins will be worked out, and I will have more Hp.

[Semi Jew]

emilio did a good job on mine, al einox did was provide the dyno at a good price.

good luck with your tune.

[J240sx]

what does Relenless charge for their Dyno Time?

[OkiNutsEP3]

3hrs of K-pro tuning on the dyno 425

[DjNando]

Hey no problem with me. I just tell people about him because they don't have to spend ^^^ that kind of money for a reliable tune. At the end of the day it's all about how comfortable you feel with the person touching your car.

[J240sx]

that's definately a pretty penny. Like two weeks of pay for me. LOL

[BIGDANHACK]

personally i would never go to einox just because when i went there the guys working there didnt seem to know much of anything...

[OkiNutsEP3]

^^^exactly, but Emillio just uses thier dyno.

So anyways, I back in town now, fresh off the dyno.
First pull was a base. I had 190hp can't remember torque. He went in and zeroed all of my cam angles, and started from scratch. A few hours and quite a few pulls later, my final numbers are 210hp, and 176 lbs-ft of torque. I went there at 11 and got done at 5. I gained 20hp from the tune. So probably all together I gained 30hp from my cams.

Well worth the money. I recommend everybody to go and get your car tuned from John at Relentless RPM.

Sorry if this broken up and hard to read. My son is driving my crazy, and I can't think straight.

[Semi Jew]

good numbers man, is that a cammed K20A3?

[OkiNutsEP3]

Yup, a stock type R has 220 at the crank. Not bad huh?!

[Semi Jew]

yeah that's pretty good. i didnt know they were up to those kind of numbers with the A3.

ill be doing a K20A2 swap with the IPS K2 cams and probably the TWM ITB kit among other things at some point.

[+Juan]

lies ! ^

[Semi Jew]

i did say at some point, not soon :)

[That Honda Kid]

Sound like they know what there doing.
Good numbers though , nice gain.

[OkiNutsEP3]

Thanks....I was totally stoked when my base pull was 190.

[J240sx]

that is pretty good. What was the total charge? In need of a tune myself.

[OkiNutsEP3]

Total price was 575. Should've been 750. I was there for 6 hours, and the labor rate for the dyno is 125/hr

[J240sx]

not bad. May check it out. but also need the street tune.

[pdexta]

Does Einox have a load dyno? I think I may eventually want to get my car on one to get the timing tuned in a little better. How much is their hourly rate?

[DjNando]

I thinks it's like 75 if I am not mistaken. A/F and graph.

[King_RSX]

Thanks....I was totally stoked when my base pull was 190.

What do you mean "Base pull"? Stock motor with Intake, Header, Exhaust and cams?

[StrictlyBusiness]

What do you mean "Base pull"? Stock motor with Intake, Header, Exhaust and cams?

Base pull = His mods w/ no form of tuning.

Glad your happy and we could help.

[King_RSX]

Base pull = His mods w/ no form of tuning.

Glad your happy and we could help.

So basically with I/H/E and Cams he made 190 hp on a dyno that applies load?

[slow2v]

So basically with I/H/E and Cams he made 190 hp on a dyno that applies load?

190 before it was tuned! probably made 200+ after tuning

[King_RSX]

I just find it very hard to believe that without a tune, a K20A3 pushed out 190 to the wheels. I/H/E and cams will not make that much power untuned. A3's come with 160 at the crank. and he made 190 to the wheels which would mean that he made a 30hp gain with no drivetrain loss. impossible because everyone knows that every car has drivetrain loss which again, means he made more then 30hp with bolt ons. Im not trying to knock on his ride but Correct me if im wrong..

[StrictlyBusiness]

I just find it very hard to believe that without a tune, a K20A3 pushed out 190 to the wheels. I/H/E and cams will not make that much power untuned. A3's come with 160 at the crank. and he made 190 to the wheels which would mean that he made a 30hp gain with no drivetrain loss. impossible because everyone knows that every car has drivetrain loss which again, means he made more then 30hp with bolt ons. Im not trying to knock on his ride but Correct me if im wrong..

Im sure he can post dyno sheets, I dont see why he would lie about a base pull.

[King_RSX]

It just seems like a bit of a stretch to have that much without any kind of tuning. Hes got to have something else like a k20 head or something.

[DC2 T3G]

MAYBE HE HAS N.O.S. lmfao.... but it does seem high for the a3....

[MoneyMike941]

shits weak

[poon]

All dyno's read differently.

http://www.teachingk-8.com/teachersk8/images/content/img/RWrite/RW_0407.gif

[slow2v]

All dyno's read differently.

http://www.teachingk-8.com/teachersk8/images/content/img/RWrite/RW_0407.gif

and all cars perform differnt :)

some cars like minor mods

[King_RSX]

yeah but they are just about the same dynos. same style. whatever. I would like to run it though....

[OkiNutsEP3]

Haven't had a problem with Type S's before. Like I said before 190 whp base pull. After done tuning 210 whp.........with out NOS. I hate nitrous BTW, what a waste of money.

[OkiNutsEP3]

Im sure he can post dyno sheets, I dont see why he would lie about a base pull.

^ You were there, you saw it.

[J240sx]

K VS. K i like it.....make it happen this weekend.

[King_RSX]

so you have a k20a3 with bolt-ons and cams ?

[King_RSX]

Ill race you this weekend. hole-shot though. YA-DIG.

[Victor]

I hate nitrous BTW, what a waste of money.


GTFO...

:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:


... Best Possible HP per Dollar investment you can make and you hate it?WOW.

[King_RSX]

-from ClubEP3.com-
Hi Guys,

My base RSX is in the workshop under going some performance upgrades:

Mods:

Skunk2 adjustable cam gear (exhaust)
Ported k20a3 head (Flows almost as good as a type R head now)
Brian crower stage 3 NA cams (296in/284ex)
BC uprated valve springs and Ti retainers
(JDM Type R) K20A crank (Knife edged and Balanced)
(JDM Type R) Conrods
Custom block Guard
Custom Bored Block to mach over size piston
Supertech high comp oversized forged pistons (87mm, 12.5CR)
Exedy hyper single clutch + lightweight flywheel kit
Fuel system: Stock Fuel Pump/ Stock

Kpro-ed (Emanage was unstable)

(JDM Type R) K20A Intake Manifold
(JDM Type R) Throttle body
K&N Open Pod Short Ram Filter System
Greddy Informeter
Apexi Auto Timer
Custom Hotbits Fully Adjustable Coilovers with Pillow ball adj camber Mount
Custom 2.2inch Straight thru de-cat exhaust system (Stock mid-pipe)
Custom Operated Muffler to 2.2 inch internal straight through pipe
Custom 4-2-1 Stainless Steel header (2+ inch diameter)

Im trying for 9000rpm redline though my mechanic says 9500rpm redline and above shd not be a problem with this setup.

Its going to be another 2 weeks of work before it gets done, how much power do you guys estimate this new setup is going to make?

Current Power on a dyno dynamics after tuning on 'current' setup:

168.9hp/ 190.1nm Torque at crank
146.7hp at wheel

Power with I/H/E mods and no tuning:

154.3hp/ 170.2nm Torque at crank
134.6hp at wheel


( That last part was the most important one. There is no possible way you made that much power with just bolt-ons and cams. People can barely make 230 with a supercharger. Id check your work at another place. Not trying to put any one down im just stating the obvious.)

[StrictlyBusiness]

-from ClubEP3.com-
Hi Guys,

My base RSX is in the workshop under going some performance upgrades:

Mods:

Skunk2 adjustable cam gear (exhaust)
Ported k20a3 head (Flows almost as good as a type R head now)
Brian crower stage 3 NA cams (296in/284ex)
BC uprated valve springs and Ti retainers
(JDM Type R) K20A crank (Knife edged and Balanced)
(JDM Type R) Conrods
Custom block Guard
Custom Bored Block to mach over size piston
Supertech high comp oversized forged pistons (87mm, 12.5CR)
Exedy hyper single clutch + lightweight flywheel kit
Fuel system: Stock Fuel Pump/ Stock

Kpro-ed (Emanage was unstable)

(JDM Type R) K20A Intake Manifold
(JDM Type R) Throttle body
K&N Open Pod Short Ram Filter System
Greddy Informeter
Apexi Auto Timer
Custom Hotbits Fully Adjustable Coilovers with Pillow ball adj camber Mount
Custom 2.2inch Straight thru de-cat exhaust system (Stock mid-pipe)
Custom Operated Muffler to 2.2 inch internal straight through pipe
Custom 4-2-1 Stainless Steel header (2+ inch diameter)

Im trying for 9000rpm redline though my mechanic says 9500rpm redline and above shd not be a problem with this setup.

Its going to be another 2 weeks of work before it gets done, how much power do you guys estimate this new setup is going to make?

Current Power on a dyno dynamics after tuning on 'current' setup:

168.9hp/ 190.1nm Torque at crank
146.7hp at wheel

Power with I/H/E mods and no tuning:

154.3hp/ 170.2nm Torque at crank
134.6hp at wheel


( That last part was the most important one. There is no possible way you made that much power with just bolt-ons and cams. People can barely make 230 with a supercharger. Id check your work at another place. Not trying to put any one down im just stating the obvious.)


All that sounds like either someone cant tune or he doesnt know WTF he is talking about. You can make more power through a B with those mods. Matter of fact, you could probably make like 275 WHP out of a B with mods like that.


Sounds like he was making that shit up.

[03scgt]

lol if they made only 160 after all those mods its pretty fucking pathetic.


and jesus dyno numbers done mean shit,that stuffs only for benchracers.

[theREDcrx]

the a3 is a generic k20. its rated 160hp to the flywheel you take at least 20hp off and thats what you got to the wheels. Its not impossible to get 190whp out of a A3 but i dont think you can pull it off untuned.

[OkiNutsEP3]

Trust me I about shit myself when he told me that. I've seen dyno numbers on clubep3(I think I've read that post before), and ephatch.com. When the tuner ask me what I was going for, I told him 150, he looked at me like I was crazy, said it should be higher than that. His original goal was 200. After I layed down a 190 with no tune, he said he's goin for 220. I don't have a dyno sheet to show you cause I was in such a hurry to leave to pick my son up from school. Left PC at 5, and was at the daycare at 5:45 in FTMY.

I haven't had a chance to run anybody yet, but before I got my cams, I ran my neighbors new GT mustang w/ intake and exhaust and ran side by side after missing like 2 shifts.

I really don't know, but my civic runs pretty strong, it always suprises the shit out of people.

[King_RSX]

The dyno numbers were for bolt-ons. Not all that other stuff. He started at 134 to the wheels and after the tuning he ended up at 147 wheel. I didnt seperate the text right.
Regardless if you did make that much power untuned then you've got one hell of a factory freak. I still want a race though.

[Semi Jew]

thats all they make with ihe? yesus i made 170 on a 13-year old b18 with a 2in collector header.

[OkiNutsEP3]

The dyno numbers were for bolt-ons. Not all that other stuff. He started at 134 to the wheels and after the tuning he ended up at 147 wheel. I didnt seperate the text right.
Regardless if you did make that much power untuned then you've got one hell of a factory freak. I still want a race though.


After all the BS I've read about you, I've wanted to run you for awile too. Maybe we can meet someday.

[King_RSX]

Thats cool. ill be looking forward to it. You should beat me though. I only pushed out 196 on CFT's dyno.

[95w_bTEG]

ur ep3 is a freak for sure!

[OkiNutsEP3]

Thanks Victor, I know Mikey was impressed when he rode in it.

[Semi Jew]

hey king, ill run you.

170whp 2350lbs vs 195whp 2700lbs.

[OkiNutsEP3]

You should beat me though..

Thought I'd never hear you say that. I thought you were the supreme driver. Anyways, who knows, I'm curious. I don't think my car is all that fast, I've been wanting to race somebody, anybody since my tune, and haven't. 1st gear is useless, spins and hops like crazy 5000RPM and up from a roll. From a dig.....pointless. I like having fun, not making it all serious. I win cool, you win cool.........i don't know that's what the dyno said, that's all I know.

[J240sx]

210whp is impressive and it should be a good race....2 months and counting down for me.

[theREDcrx]

racing tonight ?

[J240sx]

whom?????? The K's? I hope so!

[King_RSX]

Thought I'd never hear you say that. I thought you were the supreme driver. Anyways, who knows, I'm curious. I don't think my car is all that fast, I've been wanting to race somebody, anybody since my tune, and haven't. 1st gear is useless, spins and hops like crazy 5000RPM and up from a roll. From a dig.....pointless. I like having fun, not making it all serious. I win cool, you win cool.........i don't know that's what the dyno said, that's all I know.

I never said anything about being a supreme driver. Thats all the bullshit that other people say because they dont know shit about me or my car and they wanna talk smack. Ive lost races and im not afraid to lose them either. I guess if I see you around well run some.

[King_RSX]

hey king, ill run you.

170whp 2350lbs vs 195whp 2700lbs.

Im up for anything.

[StrictlyBusiness]

Thought I'd never hear you say that. I thought you were the supreme driver. Anyways, who knows, I'm curious. I don't think my car is all that fast, I've been wanting to race somebody, anybody since my tune, and haven't. 1st gear is useless, spins and hops like crazy 5000RPM and up from a roll. From a dig.....pointless. I like having fun, not making it all serious. I win cool, you win cool.........i don't know that's what the dyno said, that's all I know.


Run him, just dont let him go near his front bumper, if he does he is gonna remove one of his foglight covers to turn on his sneaky pete :D

[J240sx]

Run him, just dont let him go near his front bumper, if he does he is gonna remove one of his foglight covers to turn on his sneaky pete :D
REALLY.....................? I've also have heard something to this extent.