lotus elise

[blackjti]

i forget who mentioned it at that friday meet but i think someone asked if they were even fast

i knew they were quick but i didnt know " Weighing less than 1900 lbs. this car rockets to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds and pulls 1.06g as tested by Car and Driver."

id love to see someone run that thing from a dig on friday ...

if they have the balls *Popcorn*

[Anthony]

lol ill run it from a dig.

if he gets me out of the hole ill pass him by 60

[blackjti]

you throw that new pulley on yet?

[STiDriven]

They're quick. Gotta see them at a track or auto x to appreciate them.

[Anthony]

you throw that new pulley on yet?

nope still 4lbs but it wont really matter.ive driven an elise because i was going to buy it(not exactly my size car lol).the car is alot of fun to throw around corners but its not real fast in a straight line

[blackjti]

190hp in a 1900 lb car .. take a type R motor and a supercharger and swap it in it and you have a track monster

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[Anthony]

thats an exige then not an elise.either way around a track their hard to beat

[Only_In_A_Domestic]

that looks like alot of fun

[blackjti]

thats an exige then not an elise.either way around a track their hard to beat

? no its not .. thats an elise .. show me an exige with a soft top and i will give you a cookie.. they all have hard tops with roof scoops ..

not to mention it says elise in the title..

[Andy(tdi)]

those cars are like gocarts with monsterous powerr.
they are fuckin sweet tho.

and they the exige is the like super raceing sport version on the elise sooo only str8 coupeee mann

[David A]

I dunno about the 4.4 0-60 claim...seems too fast.

[BoostedK]

Elise 0-60 is 4.9 secs

[titter]

190hp in a 1900 lb car .. take a type R motor and a supercharger and swap it in it and you have a track monster

Basically sounds like Scott's Miata ... plus 100lbs and plus 30-50 more whp.

[David A]

Basically sounds like Scott's Miata ... plus 100lbs and plus 30-50 more whp.

And Scott has (IMO) a more desirable platform.

[slow2v]

Vehicle Details

Driver: Chris Walton
Test Date: 4/22/2008
Model Year: 2008
Make: Lotus
Model: Elise
Style: SC 2dr Convertible (1.8L 4cyl S/C 6M)
Base MSRP: $54,500
Price as Tested: $63,920
Options on Test Vehicle: Limited Paint ($3,300); Sport Pack ($2,600); Touring Pack ($1,600); Star Shield ($995).
Drive Type: Rear-wheel drive
Transmission Type: 6-speed manual
Transmission and Axle Ratios (x:1): I = 3.12; II = 2.05; III = 1.48; IV = 1.12; V = 0.92; VI = 0.82; R = 3.25; Diff = 4.53
Engine Type: Supercharged inline-4
Displacement (cc / cu-in): 1,796cc (110 cu-in)
Block/Head Material: Aluminum/Aluminum
Valvetrain: Double overhead camshaft, 4 vales per cylinder, variable intake valve timing
Compression Ratio: 11.5
Redline (rpm): 8,000 (8,500 allowed for 1.5 second bursts)
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 218 @ 7,800
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 153 @ 5,500
Brake Type (front): 11.5-inch ventilated and drilled rotors, 2-piston fixed calipers
Brake Type (rear): 11.5-inch drilled rotors, single piston sliding calipers
Steering System: Unassisted rack-and-pinion
Steering Ratio: 15.8:1
Suspension Type (front): Independent, Double Wishbones, Coil Springs, Stabilizer Bar and monotube shock absorbers
Suspension Type (rear): Independent, Double Wishbones, Coil Springs and monotube shock absorbers
Tire Size (front): 175/55R16 80W
Tire Size (rear): 225/45R17 91W
Tire Brand: Yokohama
Tire Model: Advan Neova AD07
Tire Type: Summer performance
Wheel Size: 16 X 6.0 front - 17 X 7.5 rear
Wheel Material (front/rear): Forged alloy
Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 2,006
Curb Weight As Tested (lb): 2,028
Weight Distribution, F/R (%): 37/63
Recommended Fuel: Premium unleaded (required)
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 10.6
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 20 City / 26 Highway
Edmunds Observed (mpg): 21.6

Testing Conditions

Temperature (Fahrenheit): 72.6
Humidity: 28%
Elevation (ft): 1,121
Wind: 7.4

Performance

0 - 30 (sec): 1.9
0 - 45 (sec): 3.1
0 - 60 (sec): 4.9
0 - 75 (sec): 7.1
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.3 @ 103.2 <----nothing a bone stock ls1 cant beat
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 4.6
30 - 0 (ft): 27
60 - 0 (ft): 110
Braking Rating: Excellent
Slalom (mph): 72.4
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.96
Handling Rating: Excellent
Db @ Idle: 55.4
Db @ Full Throttle: 90.7
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 78.9

[frank]

Yeah it can be beat easily in a DRAG RACE, slow2v come one we know your slow, but the car is designed to take turns.


Side note how does my car have better f/r weight distribution.

[slow2v]

Yeah it can be beat easily in a DRAG RACE, slow2v come one we know your slow, but the car is designed to take turns.


Side note how does my car have better f/r weight distribution.

i know this lol. it would fuck most cars on this site on an auto x course including me (BAD!)

but the op stated about racing from a dig which i can olny assume would be straight. its simply a 13 second car (like me :( )

[Anthony]

190hp in a 1900 lb car .. take a type R motor and a supercharger and swap it in it and you have a track monster


thats an exige then not an elise.either way around a track their hard to beat

with supercharged type r motor it would be an exige,im not saying the video car was

[Z1NONLY]

I have driven one on our autocross track a few times. They are great to drive, and they are very fast. I don't know about how they would hold up in a drag race, but I'm sure they would do well in any race that involved use of the steering wheel.

[AminalPlanet]

they are sweet cars, the only experience i have with them is watching them do lapping days at sebring and i managed to hit my head and both knees of various parts of a Lotus while attempting to sit in one at Autoquest and another time at Hunt automotive haha.

[TrEeTirdy5]

the grey one in naples is not stock.... i raced him a while back and we were side by side... from what i hear now he is ALOT faster..... so i would watch the smack talkin lol

[Anthony]

I have driven one on our autocross track a few times. They are great to drive, and they are very fast. I don't know about how they would hold up in a drag race, but I'm sure they would do well in any race that involved use of the steering wheel.

you've obviously never been in a fast straight line car before

[STiDriven]

you've obviously never been in a fast straight line car before

:rofl1: I was waiting for somone to say that. It's funny watching the 9 and 10 second cars on pinks and see the incar view of the driver shaking his fist , stroking his dash and turning his head completely around to see the other car when he is half way down the track.

Not saying you don't have to steer (i.e. that vid of the supra that somone will inevitibaly post) but please don't compare the drag to autox/or time attack, at least when it comes to steering input.

*puts on flame suit*

[Anthony]

:rofl1: I was waiting for somone to say that. It's funny watching the 9 and 10 second cars on pinks and see the incar view of the driver shaking his fist , stroking his dash and turning his head completely around to see the other car when he is half way down the track.

Not saying you don't have to steer (i.e. that vid of the supra that somone will inevitibaly post) but please don't compare the drag to autox/or time attack, at least when it comes to steering input.

*puts on flame suit*
pinks doesnt show shit.id love to see either of you jump in a 9 second car and not put it into a wall.ever had your car wave back and forth at over 100mph? ever had the front tires come off the ground and had to keep it out of the wall?

inevitably this will turn into a huge thread about being a real driver and how drag racing is gay.when either of you have tried driving something rwd that atleast does 11's then please come back and talk about it.you wont catch me saying anything bad about autocross,its just not what my car is setup for

[TrEeTirdy5]

this thread was about a lotus..... WAY OFF TOPIC FTW

[AWDMadness]

pinks doesnt show shit.id love to see either of you jump in a 9 second car and not put it into a wall.ever had your car wave back and forth at over 100mph? ever had the front tires come off the ground and had to keep it out of the wall?

inevitably this will turn into a huge thread about being a real driver and how drag racing is gay.when either of you have tried driving something rwd that atleast does 11's then please come back and talk about it.you wont catch me saying anything bad about autocross,its just not what my car is setup for


lets jump him.... :p

[STiDriven]

pinks doesnt show shit.id love to see either of you jump in a 9 second car and not put it into a wall.ever had your car wave back and forth at over 100mph? ever had the front tires come off the ground and had to keep it out of the wall?

inevitably this will turn into a huge thread about being a real driver and how drag racing is gay.when either of you have tried driving something rwd that atleast does 11's then please come back and talk about it.you wont catch me saying anything bad about autocross,its just not what my car is setup for

I didn't say anything bad about drag racing. I specifically said you can't compare the steering input of drag racing to autox/time attack, to which you disagree for some reason.

lets jump him.... :p

You'd have to catch me first. :tongue:

[AWDMadness]

You'd have to catch me first. :tongue:

you have to sleep sometime! muahahahaha :eek:

[frank]

I sense epic e-fight. *Popcorn*

[Anthony]

I sense epic e-fight. *Popcorn*

about what

[frank]

Steering a drag car.

[STiDriven]

about what


About this...







































DRAG RACING IS GAY!






j/k. I do more drag/street racing than anything these days.

[Z1NONLY]

you've obviously never been in a fast straight line car before

:rofl1:

Maybe one of these can do 11 seconds...

2008 (or was it an 09?, I can't remember) Dodge Viper (stock)
2008 Z06 (prepped, on race tires)
2006 APS extreme TT 350Z (600HP, That's me driving it in my sig)
450HP "The Beast"...words cannot explain so here is a pic....
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Z1NONLY4REAL/THEBEAST.jpg

[Jeepin']

Fuck Lotus. I worked on one (just doing tires) and took it around Estero (naturally) to feel out the ride and alignment.

First off, bitch and a half to get in. Fuck that shit.

2 - Transmission feels like its gonna come out in your hand (and no shit I know its set up for racing)

3 - I'm sorry, if I'm paying 60+ for a car, it better have real godamn emblems instead of stickers.

BUT -

It was fun as hell, very responsive, I'd love the chance on a track with one, but theres no amount of money you could pay me to own one.

[Anthony]

:rofl1:

Maybe one of these can do 11 seconds...

2008 (or was it an 09?, I can't remember) Dodge Viper (stock)
2008 Z06 (prepped, on race tires)
2006 APS extreme TT 350Z (600HP, That's me driving it in my sig)
450HP "The Beast"...words cannot explain so here is a pic....
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj117/Z1NONLY4REAL/THEBEAST.jpg

obviously 11sec wasnt the best term to use in this case.the hardest thing you drove would have been the viper,they dont like going straight

try keeping something straight that wont grip in 4th let alone 1st-3rd
heres some examples
venomized03's vette
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my point is you act like its easy to drive a fast car straight when in reality its not.obviously more steering is going on in a autocross situation given the nature of the event.both of the sports require good drivers

[Anthony]

Fuck Lotus. I worked on one (just doing tires) and took it around Estero (naturally) to feel out the ride and alignment.

First off, bitch and a half to get in. Fuck that shit.

2 - Transmission feels like its gonna come out in your hand (and no shit I know its set up for racing)

3 - I'm sorry, if I'm paying 60+ for a car, it better have real godamn emblems instead of stickers.

BUT -

It was fun as hell, very responsive, I'd love the chance on a track with one, but theres no amount of money you could pay me to own one.

id love to have one as a weekend car,the one i looked at was cool it just wasnt a smart purchase for me at the time

[STiDriven]

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Oh word. This car would shit on most drag cars too. *Popcorn*

[Anthony]

my point is you act like its easy to drive a fast car straight when in reality its not.obviously more steering is going on in a autocross situation given the nature of the event.both of the sports require good drivers

guess ill quote this again since you keep missing what im saying
drag cars huh? bet that car will do top 9's at best.its not all about power and that car i guarantee wont hook because of the setup

it is nasty though

[frank]

Bad ass car Brit but it seems the only time he actually has to really fight it steering wise (on the course not when he goes past the rumble strip) is at 1:50.

[STiDriven]

Bad ass car Brit but it seems the only time he actually has to really fight it steering wise (on the course not when he goes past the rumble strip) is at 1:50.

Yeah exactly. So the other 5 minutes of the video where he is sliding on wet corner at 100+ mph and hitting wet grass was just a cake walk. ;)

[frank]

Yeah exactly. So the other 5 minutes of the video where he is sliding on wet corner at 100+ mph and hitting wet grass was just a cake walk. ;)

Wet grass wasn't a cake walk it shows him losing it but the rest of the video you don't see him adjusting mid turn or anything, that and sliding then face raping the evo = good driver.

[STiDriven]

Wet grass wasn't a cake walk it shows him losing it but the rest of the video you don't see him adjusting mid turn or anything, that and sliding then face raping the evo = good driver.

I'm gonna have to give you a picard on this one frank. The whole vid had like 10 seconds of in car footage to which you form an opinion on. Really...really.

z0mg! The arguments.

Honestly though, it's nice to see a spirited automotive discussion on FMR other than the stupid honda "z0mg you missed a gear" talk we've had on here lately.

[frank]

You dont need in car to see how the front wheels move brit

[Z1NONLY]

my point is you act like its easy to drive a fast car straight when in reality its not.

It's easier to drive a fast car straight than it is to drive the same fast car through turns.

I know drag racing requires skill, it's just that most other forms of racing require the same skills and more.

[Z1NONLY]

Just so you know I'm not talking out my @$$...

This is my one and only visit to a 1/4 mile track back in 07...(I made a thread in the video section just now, if anyone wants to critique me.)
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[Victor]

Someone post up the Ryan Woon in car steering video.

[STiDriven]

You dont need in car to see how the front wheels move brit

I'll go run the local touge in the dry with my 250whp car and you watch my steering and see how much steering correction it takes. Now multiply the speed by 3, add 640 more hp, and a wet road/grass and you tell me he's not working his ass of inside that car.

Watch the very first scene in the vid. I've done that back and forth thing at autox and it's far from easy to recover from, even in the dry.

[Z1NONLY]

Better yet...

I present; 10 seconds and two turns...(This is my car, but I'm in the passenger seat.)

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[frank]

You seem to miss the fact that when hes sliding hes coming out of it pretty straight and still on his line. Good suspension + good drive = little correction. Its not that hes not doing work, but that for what hes driving and in what conditions especially hes not losing it every turn. I'll take you through a damp parking lot with my car and show you what a handful it can be.

I get the impression you think I'm disagreeing with you on the amount of work it to drive a track car vs drag car.

[STiDriven]

I'll agree with that.

[frank]

Present for you Brit, same car and driver, just as good at drag racing.
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[STiDriven]

Sexy.

[STiDriven]

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And remember, that's a super fast steering rack. Every movement of the steering wheel = a lot of wheel angle. AWD and in the dry.

[Semi Jew]

same car to same car, yes it's a lot harder to turn it. the more turns the more work.

drag racing my teg is fucking boring, doesn't really take any effort after the launch. road racing is arguably less intense, and then autocross being the most intense as far as steering input an whatnot. the tighter the turns, the more steering input and corrections will be needed.

[tinman101]

My friend comes to the meet in his gray lotus with like 5% tint all the time. He is pretty quick and down to run.*Popcorn*

[STiDriven]

we know.

[Anthony]

we know.

basically