Finishing Up the N2o Kit

[ISMELLRICE]

ok so here is what i have so far...

1. dyno tune bottle w/gauge+kit($225 shipped)
2. warmer(included in #1)
3. blow down tube (included in #1)
4. remote bottle opener - $50 picked up
5. cupholder switches - $42 shipped

i still need...

1. window switch
2. fuel rail adaptor
3. Spark plugs

which of these plugs would be better? between both zex's...there is 1 and 2 colder heat ranges...
would i need a tune for this or is it not necessary for a 50-75 shot?
thanks guys

[JU5TA GT]

ngk tr6s
and i went through like half a dozen bottles on a 100 shot untuned with no issues

[Metallicarokerx]

Run TR6 plugs. Not sure about the tune on a Mustang, but you may have to lower the timing. A tune would be a good idea.

[JU5TA GT]

Run TR6 plugs. Not sure about the tune on a Mustang, but you may have to lower the timing. A tune would be a good idea.

our shit on a wet kit under a 125 is already good with AF

[ISMELLRICE]

sweet that saves me about half a grand without the tune lol...im not going more than 75 shot so...

[JU5TA GT]

sweet that saves me about half a grand without the tune lol...im not going more than 75 shot so...

well i cant promise you it doesnt blow :rofl1:

even with a tune it could
just throwing it out there

im just saying ive never had any issues

[ISMELLRICE]

also 2 degrees colder or 1 degree will work?

[ISMELLRICE]

well i cant promise you it doesnt blow :rofl1:

even with a tune it could
just throwing it out there

im just saying ive never had any issues

aahh not worried about it blowing lol..this motor has proven its a strong ass motor even with the miles it has...but if it does blow mustang gt motors are no more than $750-1k lol...
even 03-04 termi motors run 3-3500 with low miles

[JU5TA GT]

one
ngk tr6 LOL

and why dont i see a wot and window swtich on your list?

[Metallicarokerx]

one
ngk tr6 LOL

and why dont i see a wot and window swtich on your list?

He has a window switch on there.

[JU5TA GT]

He has a window switch on there.
i is blind :shift

[ISMELLRICE]

it has the wot switch already...but id rather have the window switch...
have i paid too much for what i have already or was it a good deal?
the kit is so clean bottle is almost new, all the hoses are very clean also...

[JU5TA GT]

it has the wot switch already...but id rather have the window switch...
have i paid too much for what i have already or was it a good deal?
the kit is so clean bottle is almost new, all the hoses are very clean also...

looks like a good deal to me
and your going to want to run the wot AND window switch

[Metallicarokerx]

Looks good. My NX kit was 350 and I had to buy a window switch and plugs. And +1 to running a WOT switch AND window switch.

Or you could just run a progressive controller.

[JU5TA GT]

Or you could just run a progressive controller.

woudlnt you then run all 3?

[Metallicarokerx]

woudlnt you then run all 3?

I don't know much about it, but I think the progressive controller will set your RPMs and when to activate. I am pretty sure you can control everything with it. Yota has one.

[GbaaTbaaO]

I don't know much about it, but I think the progressive controller will set your RPMs and when to activate. I am pretty sure you can control everything with it. Yota has one.

A window switch- activated by a certain rpm range-200$$ but well worth it

or if you feel like a hardass just paul walker it eclipse style

[JU5TA GT]

gay movie

[GbaaTbaaO]

gay movie
+1 funny though how everyone has seen it

[mpe331lx]

Some people get lucky with spray and not having the proper saftey equipment, I ran an N/X 100 shot on a brand new 98 Cobra, 88 GT, 85 GT, 90lx notch, and an 04 GT. All were manuals and none had a WOT switch (sneaky pete button yo!), window switch, or even a damn purge! Straight ghetto, BASE kit. I LUCKLY never blew any of those up.


This is on of those cases of "Do as I say, not as I do":rofl1:


i would not run a manual car without a WOT and window switch. One missed gear and its by by motor. Come out and you bog, the RPM's drop below 3k, and its bye bye plastic intake.........it will puddle fuel and blow it to bits:frown


And yeah, no tune needed to run 100 or less on a 4.6 GT. Stick with a TR6 or autolite 103 and you'll be good to go.......and nothing less then 93 octane.

[JP]

^Agreed, for a typical wet kit. Lower the heat range of the plugs, run a WOT & window switch, have fun.

If you have any knowledge at all about reading a spark plug I would highly reccomend investing in a few fuel jets; start with the reccomended, then .002 smaller increments. - The factory reccomended n2o tunes-ups are overly rich; not the best scenario for a stock bottom end.

[Bumpin' Yota]

woudlnt you then run all 3?

I don't know much about it, but I think the progressive controller will set your RPMs and when to activate. I am pretty sure you can control everything with it. Yota has one.

Ed zachary! :) I run a FJO and it has a built in WOT and RPM window switch. Everything is completely adjustable with it too, its great!!

A window switch- activated by a certain rpm range-200$$ but well worth it

or if you feel like a hardass just paul walker it eclipse style

:facepalm:

gay movie

+11ty billion

[1loudGT]

I use the MSD digital window switch and only paid like $115 for it. But do both and maybe a fuel safety switch too. Incase the fuel pressure drops.

[Metallicarokerx]

I use the MSD digital window switch and only paid like $115 for it. But do both and maybe a fuel safety switch too. Incase the fuel pressure drops.

Damn everyone is paying so much for their MSD switch. I didn't realize how good the deal I got on mine was. I paid 60 shipped. I thought that was going rate.

Also very good point on the fuel pressure switch. How did we forget that one?

[JP]

I don't use a FP switch, but with 6psi or less flowing pressure it wouldn't do me a bit of good.

[JU5TA GT]

i have a fpss but it doesnt do anything LOL

[ISMELLRICE]

i just checked this jets that were sent and i have the following sizes...

.032 , .026 , .048 , .042 , and the others are in bags marked 150 hp (.058 and.032) and 125hp (.054 and 3.0???)

what jets would i use in the fuel and n2o lines to equal out a 75 shot and which ones for a 50 shot?

[JU5TA GT]

should be 42/28

[ISMELLRICE]

http://www.americanmuscle.com/zex-traction-control-switch.html
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=194

which one of these window switches would you guys recommend?

[JU5TA GT]

my bad, according to nx its 41/24 but you might wanna play with the fuel

[JU5TA GT]

http://www.americanmuscle.com/zex-traction-control-switch.html
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=194

which one of these window switches would you guys recommend?

zex if you can afford it becuase it has a gear lockout setting so you can start spraying the second you hit 2nd or 3rd gear

either way i think you also need a tach adapter, i know i did

[ISMELLRICE]

this?
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=258

dammit bubbah i still have a ways to go lol

[Sloww]

Nnnnaaaaawwwwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

the ZEX kit is 150 bucks through www.rpmoutlet.com
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/05gtzex.htm#1

[JU5TA GT]

this?
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=258

dammit bubbah i still have a ways to go lol
yea...

[1loudGT]

Damn everyone is paying so much for their MSD switch. I didn't realize how good the deal I got on mine was. I paid 60 shipped. I thought that was going rate.

Also very good point on the fuel pressure switch. How did we forget that one?

Is your digital? Jegs has it for 129.99

[Metallicarokerx]

Is your digital? Jegs has it for 129.99

Yeah. I guess I just got it for a steal.

[MTX]

sweet that saves me about half a grand without the tune lol...im not going more than 75 shot so...
yay you changed your sig to a new one with the badass black rims:rock:rock
well i cant promise you it doesnt blow :rofl1:

even with a tune it could
just throwing it out there

im just saying ive never had any issues

but remember your engine only had like fucking 60k on it!:redspotd

[stevieg]

2 things you should get a wideband with gauge and this a Air/Fuel Ratio Lean Shut-Down Switch http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=67 to add to the others list of things to get.

i been looking in full kits after everything priced out its around $1300-1500 with out tune

[VTC_WS6]

Yea I've got at least $1200 in my kit and counting..

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

if your going to spend the money for a wide-band i would suggest to get a tune first, J&J performance would probaly only charge u 350 for a new tune then u could run like a 100 shot

[mpe331lx]

if your going to spend the money for a wide-band i would suggest to get a tune first, J&J performance would probaly only charge u 350 for a new tune then u could run like a 100 shot

You never fully read others posts before you post, huh?:confused


He honestly will gain nothing in power (anything he'd gain would be insignificant), or safety by getting a tune on a 100 shot, bolt on car.

A 99-04 GT has such a mild tune from the factory, it practically has a nitrous tune built in. ;) No tune is needed for 100 or less. Many have ran more then 100 with great results, but some have been unfortunate to barf a rod on a 125-150 too :ugh2:

As for having a choice between spending money on a wideband or an un needed tune, I'd rather the wideband that will always be there to monitor your A/F. Compared to wasting money on a one time tune.
Save that money for when some major mods like heads, cams, or blower is done.

[stevieg]

+1 im wating on getting a tune untell i get a cam and spray in the car. but i first need to get a intake and full exh. lol

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

So if something does happen the first time he sprays the car with out a tune are you guy going to help pay for the rebuild? u spend the money to have it tuned because its a peice of mind. He has no other DD incase something happens better to be safe then sorry.

[JU5TA GT]

So if something does happen the first time he sprays the car with out a tune are you guy going to help pay for the rebuild? u spend the money to have it tuned because its a peice of mind. He has no other DD incase something happens better to be safe then sorry.

if he gets a tune and his motor then blows do you think the guy that tuned it is going to rebuild his shit?

:confused

[JU5TA GT]

if your going to spend the money for a wide-band i would suggest to get a tune first, J&J performance would probaly only charge u 350 for a new tune then u could run like a 100 shot

wouldnt it make ALOT more sense to get a wideband and then then tune?

my shit was street tuned for next to nothing because i had my own wideband

[stevieg]

everyone gets what your saying. but as long as he is under a 100 shot she should be fine with the stock tune. you dont even have a window switch jeff.:ugh2:

[JU5TA GT]

everyone gets what your saying. but as long as he is under a 100 shot she should be fine with the stock tune. you dont even have a window switch jeff.:ugh2:

:nono

:rofl1:

[mpe331lx]

So if something does happen the first time he sprays the car with out a tune are you guy going to help pay for the rebuild? u spend the money to have it tuned because its a peice of mind. He has no other DD incase something happens better to be safe then sorry.


Help pay for the rebuild, absolutely not. Anyone that is spraying thier car knows that is the chance they take EVERY time they arm that kit. It is out of my control, the owner of the cars control, or even the tuners control if the engine blows up from something not tune related.

If the fuel pump fails, BOOM. If an injector fails, BOOM. If an N20 noid sticks open, BOOM. There are so many other variables that can blow up his shit that have absolutely NOTHINIG to do with the tune.


Anyway. The reason most get a tune is because they NEED it to be safe, or to gain power (safely).
If he is spraying less then 100, it has been proven to be safe. just because your s197 needs a retune if you fart with the windows up compared to the windows down, does not mean someone with a 99-04 GT does. The same goes for the power. I had this same convorsation with two well known and proven tuners. Both told me the same thing. If someone wants to pay them to tune a 100 shot 2v, they will take the money and do it, but they are wasting thier time and money.

[1loudGT]

I agree a little with both of you. I had my car tuned on a 100 shot but it was just for piece of mind really. Plus I have no wideband. I have been told that 100 or less no tune needed but I did anyways. You might want to put a one size bigger jet in the fuel just so it won't lean out depending if your on the stock fuel pump. I did this until I upgraded my fuel pump. Knock on wood I've been spraying my car for 2 years now and nothing has happened but I have 3 safety swtches in my system. Plus I'm doing a big no-no like spraying at 2100 rpms so thats another reason i got a tune.

[JU5TA GT]

You might want to put a one size bigger jet in the fuel just so it won't lean out
hes going to want to go SMALLER with fuel then wat is recommended

the jets on the charts will make it run a little rich
and his stock pump is good till hes on a 125 shot

[mpe331lx]

You might want to put a one size bigger jet in the fuel just so it won't lean out depending if your on the stock fuel pump.

It dont matter how big of a jet you have in the system if the pump doesn't supply the fuel. It will lean out regardless.

The stock pump is sufficient for 100. Anything over that and its pushing it.

hes going to want to go SMALLER with fuel then wat is recommended

the jets on the charts will make it run a little rich
and his stock pump is good till hes on a 125 shot

He's going to want to leave the reccomended pill in there until/unless he gets a wideband.

Then he can tune the A/F by changing the fuel pill (and trying to keep the bottle pressure consistant).

[stevieg]

so it all comes down to the wideband lol get one. i have a full lc-1 wideband kit at home waiting for me to get a full exh. to go on the car.

[1loudGT]

I guess i'm playing with fire because i have no wideband. Also I have a lot of confidence in my tuner.

[JU5TA GT]

anybody ever notice that when jeff gets proven wrong or owned in a thread he will view it but NEVER post in it again? LMFAO

ive noticed this about a dozen times in the last 2 months

[mpe331lx]

so it all comes down to the wideband lol get one. i have a full lc-1 wideband kit at home waiting for me to get a full exh. to go on the car.

Only if he wants to dial in the kit for optimum performance by changing the fuel jets. Or he could pay a tuner to do it.

Most just run the reccomended jets and roll with it.

I guess i'm playing with fire because i have no wideband. Also I have a lot of confidence in my tuner.


Your not undrestanding what I'm saying. No where did I say that anyone spraying needs a wideband. If you are going to deviate from the factory jets, you should have one. If your tuner does it for you, great....he obviously is using a wideband to get the A/F right. You also have an upgraded pump right? So your not pushing that.



The biggest point I'm trying to stress is that the tune is not a NEED. It is a want. If you feel better by having it tuned, by all means do it.

[VTC_WS6]

anybody ever notice that when jeff gets proven wrong or owned in a thread he will view it but NEVER post in it again? LMFAO

ive noticed this about a dozen times in the last 2 months

Well, at least he knows when to quit unlike you..

[JU5TA GT]

Well, at least he knows when to quit unlike you..

isnt a forum intended to discus things? :tongue

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

anybody ever notice that when jeff gets proven wrong or owned in a thread he will view it but NEVER post in it again? LMFAO

ive noticed this about a dozen times in the last 2 months

So u fucking retard instead of going on for weeks with stupid shit, i just picked up the phone and called ismellrice.
Demello dealing with u on the internet is like talking to a Down syndrome kid nothing ever gets through, all your fucking ricer comments about my car so fast it can do this and that and will do this SHUT THE FUCK UP already, thats why i don't post shit in any of the threads your in. Seriously Demello everyone of your threads you post in has to be about your fucking car and how amazing it will be. Your junk box has never been to a meet never raced and car that we all can say yeah that was a real 400rwhp car. Forgot u have so much going for u that u can't race on the street maybe instead of street racing u should practice playing in traffic on the highway. Just your shit gets so fucking old in every thread.

And please fuck boy what threads have i been owned in? Because i don't respond back to shit because i'm a little sick of getting banned from the site. But i would like for u to post where i have been owned cause i am pretty sure i have some smart ass comments i could throw down now about u

[JU5TA GT]

So u fucking retard instead of going on for weeks with stupid shit, i just picked up the phone and called ismellrice.
Demello dealing with u on the internet is like talking to a Down syndrome kid nothing ever gets through, all your fucking ricer comments about my car so fast it can do this and that and will do this SHUT THE FUCK UP already, thats why i don't post shit in any of the threads your in. Seriously Demello everyone of your threads you post in has to be about your fucking car and how amazing it will be. Your junk box has never been to a meet never raced and car that we all can say yeah that was a real 400rwhp car. Forgot u have so much going for u that u can't race on the street maybe instead of street racing u should practice playing in traffic on the highway. Just your shit gets so fucking old in every thread.

And please fuck boy what threads have i been owned in? Because i don't respond back to shit because i'm a little sick of getting banned from the site. But i would like for u to post where i have been owned cause i am pretty sure i have some smart ass comments i could throw down now about u

theres been like 4 new members to call you a douche in a thread in the last 2 months and you just havent replied followed by several times that i or phil have corrected you and you never post again :rofl1:

and fyi, my car doesnt make 400hp. not even close :ugh2:
just because your car does and still runs 7s doesnt mean i need that much power to run better ETs

now please go take a grammar class and learn to READ otherwise you will get more statments like phil made a few posts ago

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

Come on now so what smart ass comment are u going to say now is it about your car or how u wanna come down here and fight me please say something or do something i am at every meet so more then welcome to show up

[JU5TA GT]

Come on now so what smart ass comment are u going to say now is it about your car or how u wanna come down here and fight me please say something or do something i am at every meet so more then welcome to show up

come talk to me when you can take stock ls1 goats LMFAO

[shelbyturbo]

My dick is bigger...

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

Well come talk to me when u and your father wanna start building these, so you 2 can start doing something creative with your lives. besides sitting online talking shit about stuff
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[Semi Jew]

why is it that every thread i look at demello is talking shit about the fucking mustang.

i can run a fucking 12 with fwd, 219whp, and a road race alignment, does that make me de jesus? no.

[JU5TA GT]

Well come talk to me when u and your father wanna start building these, so you 2 can start doing something creative with your lives. besides sitting online talking shit about stuff
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ok? i fail to see what this has to do with anything?
this is the performance section :devillook

now you wanna post more about telling the kid to WASTE his money to have a 99-04 GT tuned for a fucking 75 shot?

[JU5TA GT]

why is it that every thread i look at demello is talking shit about the fucking mustang.

i can run a fucking 12 with fwd, 219whp, and a road race alignment, does that make me de jesus? no.

explain to me how the fuck ive talked shit in this thread before jeff said i have down sydrome and im a retard?

i posted actul helpful posts for imsmellrice and then he came in posting stupid shit

[Semi Jew]

ive had over 10 PMs asking to ban you in the last two weeks, in TWO WEEKS. that often, it's not everyone else... you just rub people the wrong way the way you mention something about your car does (x) in every thread. even if it's just fucking around, people are getting tired of it.

i don't know anything about mustangs but fuck if I'd do any kind of FI before tuning on anything. especially knowing the way people on here drive and beat the fuck out of their cars pretty regularly.

[JU5TA GT]

ive had over 10 PMs asking to ban you in the last two weeks, in TWO WEEKS. that often, it's not everyone else... you just rub people the wrong way the way you mention something about your car does (x) in every thread. even if it's just fucking around, people are getting tired of it.

i don't know anything about mustangs but fuck if I'd do any kind of FI before tuning on anything. especially knowing the way people on here drive and beat the fuck out of their cars pretty regularly.

that doesnt anwser my question or even come close to it

are we discussing what happens in a tech info section or every other section?
i come in here offering advice as one of the few people on this site that have sprayed a new egde gt, followed by jeff showing his lack of reading skills, and then calling me a retard with down sydrome and posting shit about the way my brothers died and im the bad guy?

if thats how its gonna be you dont need to ban me, ill simply never log back on

[Semi Jew]

im talking about all over the forum in general, not just this post.

jeff is jeff, you aren't exactly humble with your opinions or suggestions. and i know how jeff acts around cocky people, he likes putting that kind of attitude in their spot.

just because you've sprayed a car untuned and had no problems, doesn't mean that your experience will be identical to someone else's. there isn't any harm to getting advice from a few people.

[JU5TA GT]

im talking about all over the forum in general, not just this post.

except this thread where i was trying to help ismellrice out?
wtfever

OP, if you need advice go to 1loudgt or mpe331lx not some fucking idiot whose sprayed and built 3v runs 8s and doesnt even have a window switch

i promise you your AF will be ok untuned on a 75 shotwith NX's jet chart and theres a 90+% chance its even better with a 1 or 2 sizes down on the fuel. good luck and dont go cheap with the kit

im done with this high school cliche bullshit
(nobody needs to waste there time replying to this because ill never read it)

[JU5TA GT]

just because you've sprayed a car untuned and had no problems, doesn't mean that your experience will be identical to someone else's. there isn't any harm to getting advice from a few people.

I had this same convorsation with two well known and proven tuners. Both told me the same thing. If someone wants to pay them to tune a 100 shot 2v, they will take the money and do it, but they are wasting thier time and money.

;)

[mpe331lx]

ive had over 10 PMs asking to ban you in the last two weeks, in TWO WEEKS. that often, it's not everyone else... you just rub people the wrong way the way you mention something about your car does (x) in every thread. even if it's just fucking around, people are getting tired of it.


Demello, he makes a very good point here. Sometimes you just don't know when enough is enough and continue to go on and on.

The advice is appreciated, but repetitive posts and talking down on others combo's and performance isn't. That may not have happened in this thread, but it has in multiple threads. Chill the F out sometimes. You take things too personal and ALWAYS fell as if you have something to prove.





just because you've sprayed a car untuned and had no problems, doesn't mean that your experience will be identical to someone else's. there isn't any harm to getting advice from a few people.

The thing is, he is not giving advice based only on what he's gotten away with. It has been proven time and time again that a tune is not needed for 100 or smaller shot on a 99-04 GT. For the most part it's common knowledge in the mustang comunity (atleast the ones that specifically deal with those year cars).

The advice given here is not genaral advice for spraying any car, but a specific model and year.

Jeff is used to dealing with the 05 and newer cars that need a re tune if you make a change as little as adding a CAI (no joke). Not all cars react the same to the same mods.

[Anthony]

No tune for 100 shot is normal for a 99-04. I've never seen one blow from going lean on spray because of no tune.it's been done ALOT

[JP]

This thread is filled with gayness........


With a wet kit, no "tune" is ever needed other than ignition timing. The n/f tune is done via the jetting. The manufacturer's reccomendations are already so safe(rich) that adding even more fuel via pressure or larger jet is a great way to pinch ring lands and destroy a motor. - If a "tuner" changes the fuel curve in the ecu due to a wet nitrous system then they're band-aiding instead of tuning.

No one on here is spraying even remotely close to the amount I do, anyone seen me tune via my wideband or EGT? I'll give you a hint, if I did I'd torch it before I even got out of low gear. - If you really want to "tune" nitrous, learn to read a spark plug. If you're ok with a mediocre/run-of-the-mill nitrous set-up, then just run what the manufacturer calls for. A wideband, EGT, and MAP are great for monitoring purposes, but they are far from the end-all of tune-ups.



The only way to truely know what's going on inside the combustion chamber is to read the plugs.

[JP]

hes going to want to go SMALLER with fuel then wat is recommended

the jets on the charts will make it run a little rich
and his stock pump is good till hes on a 125 shot

I will note Jesse learned this first-hand when they had his car on RevX's dyno. Change the nitrous jet from one shot size to the next w/o changing the fuel pill because it was already so pig rich on the reccomended fuel pill.


For reference, NOS website and book reccomended .081n/.091f pills for a 225 shot on my former big-shot plate. We started with a .091n/.081f, and then leaned it down from there to get it right. :eyecrazy

[JP]

My dick is bigger...

apparently dick sized is measured by dyno numbers.........that and maybe gadgets & guages.


damb, saying that is like admitting to having a small dick.......:ugh2:

[stevieg]

can some explain to me how a progressive window switch work and is it worth the money in the long run?

[JU5TA GT]

can some explain to me how a progressive window switch work and is it worth the money in the long run?

for you i woudlnt say its worth it

if you were running a "decent" or big shot it would be tho IMO

with a progressive setup you can run like 60% (underlined in pic with red) of a 200 shot and then the full 200 like 2.5 seconds later (underlined in pic with blue) or whatever percentage or time intervals you want

it benifts you by mantaining traction at lower speeds and not hitting the motor as hard since the full effect wont come at once

personally im going to just get 2 kits when my "build" is done and by having 2 arming buttons ill have my own little ghetto progressive shot going on :ugh2:

http://i44.tinypic.com/2i2ct0.png

EDIT - when you said progressive window switch you did mean progressive controller rite?

[stevieg]

yea the progressive controller. i just read some more on it i think its worth it even with only 100 shot.

[JU5TA GT]

if you can afford it why not? lol

edit - but if i were you id put the money elsewhere

[stevieg]

thats true, i think its would be good to have. do you still need a window switch or dose it do the same thing.

[JU5TA GT]

thats true, i think its would be good to have. do you still need a window switch or dose it do the same thing.

i think it depends on the brand so im not sure

i just looked at a few and it seems like with nx you need a window switch and progressive but with dynotunes cheaper setup you dont but im not positive

the good controllers are expenseive FYI, like 500+ bucks and its really intended for cars running bigger shots

on just a nitto DR or maybe even a soft street tire you will be able to spray the second you shit into 3rd and its not like 100 shot is going to hit an lsx hard so maybe just get a window switch with a gear lockout?

[stevieg]

yea, its prob. something to look in to the future for big power.

[JU5TA GT]

yea, its prob. something to look in to the future for big power.

what are your goals/plans with the car now?

and yes im aware this is going off topic but im sure its some info imsmellrice wouldnt mind reading

[stevieg]

i want to get the basic stuff done first: intake, full exh., work on the suspension, cam with head components, then spray and tune for power looking for 500hp when all said and done

[stevieg]

oh i found this looking at kit

its cheap and dose eveything.

edit its was a upgrade part

[JU5TA GT]

i want to get the basic stuff done first: intake, full exh., work on the suspension, cam with head components, then spray and tune for power looking for 500hp when all said and done

i woud do definitly do bolt ons first!
good luck :redspotd

[stevieg]

yea babe steps lol

[Metallicarokerx]

i woud do definitly do bolt ons first!
good luck :redspotd

Fuck that! lol. Actually it IS a good idea im just kidding.

I went straight to the spray after the intake and I am on a 100 shot now. Do it Stevie, you will get addicted to it.

[stevieg]

^ i know, but i really want the cam first. well see lol every day i look at kits and think its so easy lol

[JU5TA GT]

^ i know, but i really want the cam first.

that would of been my first mod after gears/exhuast if i had an lsx

[Metallicarokerx]

^ i know, but i really want the cam first.

I want to do the same as you with a cam and spray. I don't know how much you have researched but spray gets retarded gains with a nice cam. Some guys are getting 150+ tq out of a 75 shot with a cam.

Gotta love lsx.

[stevieg]

^ damn, i want to get the VRX3 cam

226/228 .585/.588 114 LSA. Our most popular Street Camshaft. 1700-6700 Power Band. Excellent Street Manners. Lots of "Power Under the Curve". Choppy idle. Computer tuning is required for best results. We suggest Comp 928 Valvesprings

[JP]

For note, progressive controllers are very hard on the solenoids. The way they work is by pulsing the noids, opening/closing them repeatedly, multiple times per second. It's rough on the coils and rough on the plungers.

They're a great tuning tool for a small tire car running a large single shot. If you're not limited to a combo like that then I would highly reccomend going the route Demello is talking with a 2nd stage. - Since most of you will be OE type EFI, you would just need a nozzle(and pills obviously) and a 2nd set of solenoids + the plumbing to hook it up. Both can be run off of the same WOT, window switch, and bottle.

[JP]

GOT NITROUS?

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq273/JPShawgo/800554526_A2P7t-L.jpg

[JU5TA GT]

For note, progressive controllers are very hard on the solenoids. The way they work is by pulsing the noids, opening/closing them repeatedly, multiple times per second. It's rough on the coils and rough on the plungers.

They're a great tuning tool for a small tire car running a large single shot. If you're not limited to a combo like that then I would highly reccomend going the route Demello is talking with a 2nd stage. - Since most of you will be OE type EFI, you would just need a nozzle(and pills obviously) and a 2nd set of solenoids + the plumbing to hook it up. Both can be run off of the same WOT, window switch, and bottle.

i thought it was ghetto :rofl1:

[Metallicarokerx]

^ damn, i want to get the VRX3 cam

226/228 .585/.588 114 LSA. Our most popular Street Camshaft. 1700-6700 Power Band. Excellent Street Manners. Lots of "Power Under the Curve". Choppy idle. Computer tuning is required for best results. We suggest Comp 928 Valvesprings

There is a brand new cam and install kit on ls1gto for 550. It is VERY close to that cam. Might want to check it out.

[stevieg]

There is a brand new cam and install kit on ls1gto for 550. It is VERY close to that cam. Might want to check it out.

yea i saw that. i wish i had the money, but i just sent a lot money the past few months

[1loudGT]

What do you guys think about a 150 shot on a stock 2v?

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

do it, www.rpmoutlet.com has a sweet deal on a intake,throttle body and plenum for 729 for your car. would open that piggy up huge

[1loudGT]

I want that new BBK intake with the short and long runners.

[stevieg]

What do you guys think about a 150 shot on a stock 2v?

do it :rock

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

i would wait til u get everything u wanted then see what it does with the 125, maybe do a 150shot on a race tune.

Thats what i'm trying to do i wanna get rid of my stage 1 cam 8hp peak lol, and do a stage 2 or 3 with and the supporting mods with the new Ford intake and either mono blade and have a direct system, or the new ford 65mm throttle body with Harris Speed plate system with a 150 on that. If i go the mono blade way i'll do a 200shot system with a 1 gallon tank.

[JU5TA GT]

What do you guys think about a 150 shot on a stock 2v?

its been done before but for the little power youd gain i wouldnt
do it, www.rpmoutlet.com (http://www.rpmoutlet.com) has a sweet deal on a intake,throttle body and plenum for 729 for your car. would open that piggy up huge

shitty plenum and that package overal will give him a very small gain
definitly not worth it IMO

the only way i would put that type of shit (or any brand tb/plenum for that matter) is finding a deal on one used which is very easy to do

btw dan, most of the gain will come from the plenum. the brand of tb doesnt matter as much as the plenum and you should stick to accufab if you do get a plenum. that way you gain 2hp instead of just 1 :rofl1:

[ISMELLRICE]

i had accufab b4 i miss it so bad...70mm tb&p...

im still finishing it up though lol

[JU5TA GT]

i had accufab b4 i miss it so bad...70mm tb&p...

im still finishing it up though lol

it REALLY doesnt matter much besides looks lol
on the bottle a little more but nothing special

its on of those things that you buy just to buy and if you ever run a 12.99 you can say you got in the 12s because of it :rofl1:

[1loudGT]

How much do you think I would gain?

[JU5TA GT]

How much do you think I would gain?

i have no clue about the intake manifold but with an accufab 75mm tb and plenum probly 4-6 rwhp on the juice. not sure about the other plenums tho

i only got my tb/plenum cuz it was 100 bucks for both used but in like new shape and i definitly didnt notice any difference in performance

[mpe331lx]

i have no clue about the intake manifold but with an accufab 75mm tb and plenum probly 4-6 rwhp on the juice. not sure about the other plenums tho

i only got my tb/plenum cuz it was 100 bucks for both used but in like new shape and i definitly didnt notice any difference in performance


You can not give an honest oppinoin. Your car was essentially stock. You did not have any dyno numbers and no comparable track times.


if you are going full bolt ons along with full exhaust, Id definately do a accufab or dragon plenum and TB.


BTW, It will show more of a power gain with the TB and plenum N/A than on spray. You will see bigger gains on the spray with exhaust changes then intake changes.

[1loudGT]

No not with the tb just going from a 125 to a 150 shot. As the car sits now.

[ISMELLRICE]

have a brand new autometer tach adaptor...
will this window switch work? anyone use it? its only $55 compared to zex which is about 150
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-830452/

[ISMELLRICE]

purchased today:

1. dynotune window switch
2. dynotune dual purge kit
3. 99-04 fuel rail adapter

it looks like im ready...
who can help me wire all this up? lol

[Jcook]

purchased today:

1. dynotune window switch
2. dynotune dual purge kit
3. 99-04 fuel rail adapter

it looks like im ready...
who can help me wire all this up? lol

I can't wait to test this setup vs tha goat... 835 + handycam = ?????

[ISMELLRICE]

should be getting the window switch today and the fuel rail adaptor also...
purge is coming from texas so maybe friday

[SLOMOGT]

^^^Bet you cant wait to put it all together ! wish i would just buy the whole kit ! and be done with it....

[Bumpin' Yota]

i think it depends on the brand so im not sure

i just looked at a few and it seems like with nx you need a window switch and progressive but with dynotunes cheaper setup you dont but im not positive

the good controllers are expenseive FYI, like 500+ bucks and its really intended for cars running bigger shots

on just a nitto DR or maybe even a soft street tire you will be able to spray the second you shit into 3rd and its not like 100 shot is going to hit an lsx hard so maybe just get a window switch with a gear lockout?

I generally try not to deficate inside the car... Although most mustang owners when given a ride do have a hard time controlling their bowels from the sheer speed compared to their vehicles! lol JFWY!

I dont know how FJO ranks in the realm of things, but my FJO Mini-progressive ran me 230 bux and I would highly recommend it to anyone! Built in WOT switch, built in RPM dual window switch, can control 2 stages, can control pulse rate, first gear lockout, nitrous delay, ramp time, etc. You name it you can adjust it.



yea, its prob. something to look in to the future for big power.

Nah do it now. It's worth it. ;) Look at the FJO miniprogressive

Fuck that! lol. Actually it IS a good idea im just kidding.

I went straight to the spray after the intake and I am on a 100 shot now. Do it Stevie, you will get addicted to it.

Holyshit he isnt kidding. I've pulled my bottle since I've already emptied it and man do I miss it!!

[JP]

A 100 wet shot at 3k rpm is going to provide well over 100ftlbs of tq additionally. A street tire will NOT hold that power at the start of 3rd.

Maybe not on your car, but on many it will. - Before the t-trim we were hitting Robert's with north of 100hp, rpm only window switch; thus even in low gear above 4k. 330rwhp na, on 17" drag radials and no problems.

Proper gearing and chassis and you can hit it even harder yet.

[Bumpin' Yota]

Yeah I deleted that out when I started thinking about other people's cars that aren't limited to a 245 tire like my goat. By "street" tire I meant any non-drag radial even though they are a street tire. :)

[JU5TA GT]

i use to have some SHIT rock hard tires that i would get for 20 bucks a piece
the rears never even matched

really cold nites id sipn a little in 3rd but 99 percent of the time i would dead hook when i started spraying at like 50mph

[JP]

i use to have some SHIT rock hard tires that i would get for 20 bucks a piece
the rears never even matched

I can vouch for this.........:rofl1:

[ISMELLRICE]

back on topic...i need my bottle filled lol...i want to hook this up later today also...

[ISMELLRICE]

http://www.dynotune.org/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=194
i got this and dont really know where the yellow and the orange wire would hook up to...thats really the last thing i got to hook up before everything is connected and done...i have to get this bottle filled also

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/INSTRUCTIONS/2%20STAGE%20RPM%20WINDOW%20SWITCH.pdf

[Anthony]

i suspect phil is going to answer you any second

[ISMELLRICE]

**crosses fingers**

[SLOMOGT]

nice gona have to dyno it when its all done man !

[AFTERMATH]

yellow goes to the # 85 on the relay, it will ground the relay when it activates and orange will only be used for a second stage.

[AFTERMATH]

Whats your email i will email you instr. for it.

[ISMELLRICE]

cool... so basically orange stays unconnected...
thanks should be done early tomorrow...cleaning it up as much as i can

ismellrice@gmail.com

[mpe331lx]

i suspect phil is going to answer you any second


rofl:

I looked at the controller and I've never used one before, so I couldn't help.


Roys da man and jumped in for the save:rock

[AFTERMATH]

cool... so basically orange stays unconnected...
thanks should be done early tomorrow...cleaning it up as much as i can

ismellrice@gmail.com

just sent you an email, yes orange is not used for one stage.

[Jcook]

Hurry erilick. we gotta race...

[gabe18t]

Roy for the save! Lol

[VTC_WS6]

...toss a rod out the block yet? :biggrin

[ISMELLRICE]

not yet lol...prolly this week if something happens...ill get the bottle filled at roys whenever i get a chance to head out