Mustang Guys

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

Hey have any of you guys heard about this place or know anyone thats bought a build from them?

http://www.dssracing.com/

Reason why i'm asking is, i think its time to learn about installing the bottom end. SO i want to buy a bare block and give me a year long project. Im honest when it comes to everything under the heads i'm like ? So if u all know any place please some ideas

[mpe331lx]

They have OK parts. I'm pretty sure they are offshore manufactured. Their machine work is supposed to be top notch though.

Back in 05', I built the 331 shortblock in my old notch using all DSS products. It had thier level 10 block, DSS 331 stroker kit with cast 3.25" crank , forged I beams, and Pro Lite pistons.

When I assembled it, the machinework and tolerances were all within spec. It took plenty of abuse and as far as I know its still alive and kickin today.


With all that being said, Im sure that there are companys that use better quality "made in usa" parts (9 times out of ten, there is a quality difference between the chineese shit rotating assemblys and ones made here).

[Sharad]

I've heard mostly good stuff about DSS, but I used Coast High Performance.

http://www.coasthigh.com/

[7upstang91]

Never heard anything bad. I take it you intend to spray? Go for the Level 20 block, its a 4 bolt main. Instead of the weak 2 Bolt. Try, Man O' War blocks, or Dart Blocks as well.

[JU5TA GT]

ummm teskid block?

[Sharad]

Go for the Level 20 block, its a 4 bolt main. Instead of the weak 2 Bolt. Try, Man O' War blocks, or Dart Blocks as well.

Nope. Level 10 and Level 20 refer to the CNC machining. Not all Level 20s are 4-bolt blocks.



ummm teskid block?

And yeah, I'm sure Jeffie's talking about his S197 mustang, so he won't be needing a World or Dart block.

[7upstang91]

Oh right, certain ones are...the ones rated at 600 horsepower are. Just depends which block you go with. Most 20s are 4 bolt. of the Level

[JU5TA GT]

Oh right, certain ones are...the ones rated at 600 horsepower are. Just depends which block you go with. Most 20s are 4 bolt. of the Level

but he can pick up a teskid block for 200-300 bucks and make 1xxx lol

[Sharad]

but he can pick up a teskid block for 200-300 bucks and make 1xxx lol

on 30 pounds of boost!!! :biggrin

[geoffgt]

I've heard good things about DSS blocks... I actually know a few people locally who run them...

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

but he can pick up a teskid block for 200-300 bucks and make 1xxx lol

DO not wanna sound rude Demello but when it comes to the car i never buy junk stuff, don't wanna sound like a Diva but like the transmission i let pro motion do my 26spline input shaft and rebuild the tranny because they are the best and went with a Zoom twin disc clutch. I hate having headaches so i buy new and good stuff

Motor wise looking at the Boss 330 block,

[JU5TA GT]

on 30 pounds of boost!!! :biggrin
:rock
DO not wanna sound rude Demello but when it comes to the car i never buy junk stuff, don't wanna sound like a Diva but like the transmission i let pro motion do my 26spline input shaft and rebuild the tranny because they are the best and went with a Zoom twin disc clutch. I hate having headaches so i buy new and good stuff

Motor wise looking at the Boss 330 block,

are you fucking serious?

a teskid block is one of the strongest AND lightest blocks ever put in a mustang and is the most sought after block for most 4.6 builds

how is it junk?

my block as is will EASILY handle over 1000, and upwards towards 1500 horsepower

[Anthony]

teksid based motors ftw

[JU5TA GT]

teskid based motors ftw
:werd:

[Jeffie ON JUICE]

i will stick with a 3v because i have 3grand sitting in ford racing heads and can't seem to sale them to anyone and won't take a 50% lose to the people who wanna buy them, i was very stupid 2 and a half years ago when i bought them i should of bought a turbo :(

[JU5TA GT]

i will stick with a 3v because i have 3grand sitting in ford racing heads and can't seem to sale them to anyone and won't take a 50% lose to the people who wanna buy them, i was very stupid 2 and a half years ago when i bought them i should of bought a turbo :(

what does a 3v have to do with having a teskid block or not?

we have mod motors
modular = interchangable

theres plenty of 2v teskid builds out there, dont see why you cant do the same with 05-10 heads

[7upstang91]

Bottom line is the DSS is a good block.

Jeffie On Juice, the Shelby GT sitting at Aftermath is getting a DSS block, I have heard. Big plans for that car, maybe just sit back and see what happens with it. Should take tons of boost too!

[JU5TA GT]

Bottom line is the DSS is a good block.

Jeffie On Juice, the Shelby GT sitting at Aftermath is getting a DSS block, I have heard. Big plans for that car, maybe just sit back and see what happens with it. Should take tons of boost too!

and no matter how you put a teskid will be more then good enough for him and 50-100 pounds lighter then most blocks

all at a FRACTION of the cost

theres a difference between being cheap and being efficent with how you spend your money. just becasue the block is cheap when it comes to the price does not mean it isnt as good as new blocks that cost 4 figures

[mpe331lx]

Bottom line is the DSS is a good block.

Jeffie On Juice, the Shelby GT sitting at Aftermath is getting a DSS block, I have heard. Big plans for that car, maybe just sit back and see what happens with it. Should take tons of boost too!

The thing is, dss does not make or manufacture blocks. They modify and machine stock blocks (or FRPP, dart, and world products blocks in the pushrod world)

The 2 bolt and 4 bolt blocks you mentioned earlier pertain to the pushrod motors.

Level 10 or level 20 has nothing to do with having 2 or 4 bolt mains either. Most level 20 pushrod blocks are based on factory 5.0l blocks which are 2 bolts. Now you can have a race block like the new FRPP boss or similar 4 bolt main aftermarket block level 20 race prepped.



All of the stock iron modular motors ar 4 bolt blocks (2 vertical main bolts and 2 side bolts)

The factory aluminum modular blocks ar 6 bolt mains (traditional 4 vertical bolts and 2 side bolts)

Jeff,
Pick a top notch engine builder like boss330 racing, livernois motorsports, Mike and John Tymensky at modular perfomance. Send them a Teksid block and have them do the machine work and race prepping.
You will end up with an engine that will take just as much as you could possibly throw at it in a street car, and keep 75lbs off the front end of your car compared to an iron block 4.6.

[JU5TA GT]

read carefully jeff

quoted from http://www.proweldperformanceparts.com/id18.html
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Please remember..... that while Ford makes many great engine blocks, and most will fit the bill for the majority of users, the original TEKSID Block, is still the preferred route when serious horsepower is needed. These all aluminum TEKSID Blocks were made in Turin, Italy by TEKSID Aluminum Inc., the Worlds leader in Cast, Forged and Lost-Foam Aluminum engine parts. TEKSID, provides the worlds best automotive manufacturers with the highest quality aluminum pieces in the world! They provide Ferrari, Lamborghini, Fiat, Porsche, Opal, Ford, Maserati, Audi and many other automotive manufacturers with the highest quality aluminum parts available.
Ford used their services to provide engine blocks in the early years of the 4.6L DOHC 4V engine, till they had the casting capacities to due the job themselves. While Ford did a fairly good job, their standards, alloy content, accuracy of cast, tolerances, and overall strength and quality was not up to those set by the TEKSID company.
The TEKSID Block is a very special and coveted commodity in the Ford racing community. It's production years were between 1993 and 1998, and was only used on the 4.6L 4V DOHC Engines. It's a testament to the original quality of the TEKSID plant that their block remains the "Engine Block to Have" still today. Ford used this block much like they used the Manley Connecting Rods and Pistons in there 2003-2004 Cobra 4.6L 4V DOHC Engines. They needed something fast that would work with this new combination of super-charged horsepower, and it had to last. The Manley rods and pistons worked perfectly, and are still considered to be quality, performance pieces today. Of-coarse Ford went back to there Powdered Metal Rods and Cast Aluminum Pistons after the "Terminator", or 4.6L 4V DOHC ‘03-04 Cobra engines were done. Much like the TEKSID block, the quality was there, but the pieces were to expensive for Ford's use in production bases cars. Kind of says a lot about the thinking inside the car world....But hey, at least they were willing to use these great parts and services of some of the worlds best High Performance Parts Manufacturers, for a while.
Hear at Pro Weld Performance Parts, we sell TEKSID Blocks. We purchase them from various sources, clean them up, Race prep them and then offer them to you for re-sale. All our TEKSID Blocks have under-gone a rigorous inspection, cleaning, and checking. If needed, we bore the blocks to there next over-size, line-bore the main bearings, deck the blocks, and repair an problems. All our TEKSID Blocks are Race Prepped, they have been deburred and any casting flash removed. All corners and intersections smoothed, the Water Plugs have been tapped and our AN-20 O-ring Boss Plugs installed. ARP Main Studs are installed, as well as our bell-housing stud kit, Side Bolt Kits, and our Oil Pan Rail Stud Kit.
These blocks are sold in perfect condition, and make the best possible platform for any combination of Race or High Performance Engine."

[7upstang91]

I assumed they were for the Mod block as well. I only look for the 5.0s anyway. I did say it depends on which block he buys, which will be the difference in main bolts.

[91foxbody]

If it was me, I'd do CHP. DSS does make (and machine) good stuff though. Does FordStrokers do mod motors? Nope, looks like only push rod motors. Bummer!

[AFTERMATH]

I have a DSS 3v 5.0 short block here at the shop if you want to check it out.

[Sharad]

Bottom line is the DSS is a good block.

Jeffie On Juice, the Shelby GT sitting at Aftermath is getting a DSS block, I have heard. Big plans for that car, maybe just sit back and see what happens with it. Should take tons of boost too!

I know someone with a CHP stroker with big plans. It should take tons of boost too! ;)

:biggrin