Unsecured Network

[pdexta]

I've got a stupid question, hoping some of you leet hackers can answer for me. I have a POS Dell that I don't use that much, starts about half the time, and absolutely refuses to connect to a secured wireless network (ethernet card is shot so that's not an option either).

So my question is, what is the risk in using an unsecured network? Obviously, other people can use the network, I don't really care about that, comcast is rapin me, might as well share the wealth. What "security risk" do I really open myself up to? What could YOU do to someone with an unsecure network?

I do check my bank account (don't really give a shit if people know how poor I am), pay bills (credit cards), ebay, paypal, email, several forums, facebook, an occasional NSFW site, that's about it. I really don't have any super sensitive info on the harddrive; some pictures, videos, dumbass ex's with some homemade porn (that half of you have already seen anyway, ha). Is there really anything that you would be able to do to me? Can you hurt me in any way at all? What could you do?

[titter]

I could sit outside your house, steal your bank passwords, and sell your information. What version of Windows is on that laptop? Why type of security settings have you tried? Are you using the POS Dell Wireless Software, or letting Windows control it?

Someone could also steal your bandwidth, and do illegal things. This would be more common than someone trying to hack your computer. Some sick old fucks trying to watch kiddy porn on your internet could get you in trouble. Highly unlikely any of this could happy, but it's possible.

[pdexta]

The shitty dell has XP, I'm letting windows try to connect. It detects the network, requests the password, I put it in and it doesn't connect. I've tried both WPA and WEP. Never get a fail message or anything, it just goes through the "connecting" message and then it goes away and it's not connected.

Actually it's not connecting to the unsecure network now (it was before). I'm gonna FFR the bitch and see what it does.

[Acuracy]

I really wouldn't worry about it too much, MOST likely thing anyone would do if anything is use your bandwidth. It is a security risk, but basically either a neighbor would have to do it or some strange person that drives around neighborhoods looking for things like that.

[pdexta]

Fuckin ayeeeee, apparently I can't do a recovery. I found these disks: 1. dell drivers and diagnostics, 2. dell sonic record now, 3. dell cyberlink dvd, 4. encarta 2004, 5. wordperfect productivity pack. Fuckin lawl.

Also found a Vista recovery disk for my HP, but I'm pretty sure my POS dell would have a seizure just lookin at that CD.

[pdexta]

Since this thread may be coming to an end... on a more personal note, with my current job, I deal with the customer service departments of all of these companies on a daily basis. I will absolutely never own anything other than an HP/Compaq.

I recently had a harddrive die on my compaq, called in at 6:05pm to report the problem, at 6:20pm I was off the phone, and at 7:38am the next morning the fucking Fedex man woke my ass up when he rang the door bell delivering my new harddrive and recovery disks.

At my job we have a "backdoor number" to get into "2nd tier" agents at dell, acer, gateway, toshiba, emachines, etc and they are all shit, shit shit shit. HP's public number is FARRRR beyond any "special number" by any other company (and the HP "special number" is fucking like personally speaking to jesus). HP cock stomps everyone in customer service. If you buy anything other than an HP, let me know, and I'll personally kick you in the balls b/c apparently you enjoy that kind of thing.

[DSM JOEY]

Since this thread may be coming to an end... on a more personal note, with my current job, I deal with the customer service departments of all of these companies on a daily basis. I will absolutely never own anything other than an HP/Compaq.

I recently had a harddrive die on my compaq, called in at 6:05pm to report the problem, at 6:20pm I was off the phone, and at 7:38am the next morning the fucking Fedex man woke my ass up when he rang the door bell delivering my new harddrive and recovery disks.

At my job we have a "backdoor number" to get into "2nd tier" agents at dell, acer, gateway, toshiba, emachines, etc and they are all shit, shit shit shit. HP's public number is FARRRR beyond any "special number" by any other company (and the HP "special number" is fucking like personally speaking to jesus). HP cock stomps everyone in customer service. If you buy anything other than an HP, let me know, and I'll personally kick you in the balls b/c apparently you enjoy that kind of thing.

heh watcha talkin bout willis

[Oner]

Have you tried (or know how to) enable wireless MAC address filtering within your router settings? It's an easy way to bypass having a password on your WiFi because only authorized MAC addy's can use your WiFi. Also have you changed your router password or are you using the standard Admin Admin, Admin Password or whatever other easily bypassed stock passwords (http://www.routerpasswords.com/index.asp)?

[titter]

Have you tried (or know how to) enable wireless MAC address filtering within your router settings? It's an easy way to bypass having a password on your WiFi because only authorized MAC addy's can use your WiFi. Also have you changed your router password or are you using the standard Admin Admin, Admin Password or whatever other easily bypassed stock passwords (http://www.routerpasswords.com/index.asp)?

This is not a secure method at all. It is very easy to sniff out the MAC addresses of clients connected to the AP, and find the MAC address of the AP itself. :redspotd

[titter]

Since this thread may be coming to an end... on a more personal note, with my current job, I deal with the customer service departments of all of these companies on a daily basis. I will absolutely never own anything other than an HP/Compaq.

I recently had a harddrive die on my compaq, called in at 6:05pm to report the problem, at 6:20pm I was off the phone, and at 7:38am the next morning the fucking Fedex man woke my ass up when he rang the door bell delivering my new harddrive and recovery disks.

At my job we have a "backdoor number" to get into "2nd tier" agents at dell, acer, gateway, toshiba, emachines, etc and they are all shit, shit shit shit. HP's public number is FARRRR beyond any "special number" by any other company (and the HP "special number" is fucking like personally speaking to jesus). HP cock stomps everyone in customer service. If you buy anything other than an HP, let me know, and I'll personally kick you in the balls b/c apparently you enjoy that kind of thing.

Never had a problem with Dell. Next day air on all parts via FedEx. I usually use the Dell chat, and tell them the problem and what I need. They just send the parts. No hassles. All our servers, desktops, and laptops at my company are from Dell. HP makes some decent higher end products, but their consumer level stuff is horseshit. I have fixed more dead motherboards, and faulty power jacks on HP laptops than anything else. Almost as much as I have fixed dead inverter boards on Dell's laptop LCD's. :rofl1:

[Oner]

This is not a secure method at all. It is very easy to sniff out the MAC addresses of clients connected to the AP, and find the MAC address of the AP itself. :redspotd

No one is saying it is a "secure" method of anything. Just a way to test if it will work and a way to keep 99% of the people around him off his network, as I highly doubt the chances of someone specifically going through the hassle of packet sniffing his WiFi is going to be of issue (especially depending on where he lives). :tongue

[titter]

No one is saying it is a "secure" method of anything. Just a way to test if it will work and a way to keep 99% of the people around him off his network, as I highly doubt the chances of someone specifically going through the hassle of packet sniffing his WiFi is going to be of issue (especially depending on where he lives). :tongue

You don't know FMR! :rofl1:

[R3d foreman]

scott some dells have a keystoke you hit when booting up that puts the computer back to how it was when you bought it, similar to a master reset on a phone. if you go to the dell website or google it you should be able to find it, it's like ctrl+shift+f11 or something like that. also, if you get the "service tag" number on your dell, you should be be able to type that in and download whatever drivers/updates you need (yeah it's not helpful if you can't get online....but you could try plugging directly into your router to d/l whatever you need and see if that fixes it). i just restored my girlfriend's dell inspiron like that, i'm using it now

[Oner]

You don't know FMR! :rofl1:

Don't need too. I was offering help to someone...

[demetri01ws6]

just WAP that shit with mac filtering and pray you dont have any 1337 enemies.