should i stick with my turbo?

[02vortec]

my max hp on this project will prolly be somewhere around 380 to 390whp. should i stick with my garrett t3/t4 60trim turbo (balanced, clipped, ported) or go with a bigger turbocharger. im thinking masterpower T4 T70 turbocharger w/ t3inlet flange. OR- IM LOOKING FORSOMETHING UNDER $800 as far as the turbo goes. anyone got a used t4 or anything lemme know.

BTW 4.3L L31, w/ 4l60e transmission

[HI-BOOST]

Just keep the same turbo and see if you reach your goal. Don't spend more money if you can reach your goal with that turbo. You dont want to get a bigger torbo to boost less or about the same because keep Lag in mind.

[02vortec]

Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM@Aug 1 2006, 09:09 PM
Just keep the same turbo and see if you reach your goal. Don't spend more money if you can reach your goal with that turbo. You dont want to get a bigger torbo to boost less or about the same because keep Lag in mind.
yeah i know. this turbo in its stock form can do 350hp. and clipped, ported, balanced maybe 390 or 400? i dunno. LAG WONT BE AN ISSUE with this turbo. plus my daily tune will be 275whp. that about 20more whp than i had on nitrous so thats fine with me and if i need a bigger turbo, i might just get a bigger exhaust housing ??????

[Hawk]

t61 gt35 wheel with 65lb per min 0.70 a/r to4s compressor housing/ exh .82 a/r t3 divided inlet 3in vband. bearing 360 thrust oil cooled custom built $800 slightly neogoible.

[02vortec]

Originally posted by Hawk@Aug 1 2006, 11:39 PM
t61 gt35 wheel with 65lb per min 0.70 a/r to4s compressor housing/ exh .82 a/r t3 divided inlet 3in vband. bearing 360 thrust oil cooled custom built $800 slightly neogoible.
its yours?

[lib1dave]

you must remember that there talking hp not whp, all turbo makers talk in hp!! a bigger turbo is always's better if it's in the confines of you spooling it. why you ask? cause a larger turbo will have to work less to make the same if not more power. not to mention that it will produce less heat cause your not running it out of it's efficiency range! Also remember that your power comes from the volume of air you move, not from pressure. The idea is to run more air with less psi. psi is back pressure and that doesn?t make power, air mass does!!! on a bigger turbo you can run less psi but your moving more air which =?s more power, cleaner and safer power. A smaller turbo would have to max out to create the same power, which you?ll be running more psi(back pressure) and more induced heat.

also, if you have an auto and it's rwd you need to subtract 25% from the power and that will be your max power to the wheels

[Hawk]

the turbo is a friends (spiningall4)...and it should put you at 500 +/- 50hp

[HI-BOOST]

We have talked about turbo's and which turbo is good for your setup in like 3 threads, you can get a bigger turbo but for the amount of power you looking for it might not be nesesary. I say grow some fucking balls and buy something big and fucking boost that shit up. Unless you wanted a turbo to listen to the BOV wistle.



*dont take my last two sentences offensive, wasn't meant in a bad way*





The faster you go, the faster you want to go. Trust me, unless your car is a show car, but it has happend to many of us.

[02vortec]

Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM@Aug 2 2006, 03:15 AM
We have talked about turbo's and which turbo is good for your setup in like 3 threads, you can get a bigger turbo but for the amount of power you looking for it might not be nesesary. I say grow some fucking balls and buy something big and fucking boost that shit up. Unless you wanted a turbo to listen to the BOV wistle.



*dont take my last two sentences offensive, wasn't meant in a bad way*





The faster you go, the faster you want to go. Trust me, unless your car is a show car, but it has happend to many of us.
its not like i got 7k rpms 2 work with here guys. i got about 5300rpms. alot of guys building turbo 4.3L are using PT60, or 17C turbos such as this-

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showpost.php...55&postcount=11 (http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2538655&postcount=11)

that turbo physically looks alot smaller than mine, and those turbos made great hp on sy/ty's (330hp stock).

looking for some holset turbochargers. gonna see if i can persuade SVOmike 2 sell me one of his for some cash.

WHAT ABOUT THIS BEAST- T70 T4 with t3-inlet
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MASTER-POWE...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MASTER-POWER-TURBO-60-1-Stage-5-T3-70-802300_W0QQitemZ110005456530QQihZ001QQcategoryZ337 42QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[SVT5.4]

why not go 76mm .81 a/r ?? :thumbsup:

[HI-BOOST]

02vortec bro you keep contradicting your self. Go with the same turbo most people go with. You want to upgrade to a big ass turbo when you looking for low HP, and like i said before a big turbo = lag. I know your car have a somewhat big motor which is more higher CFM going through your intake but you just gave ur self the answer on having a low RPM rev.

About a 76mm .82AR i dont know man i dont think i'd recommend that.


is your car gasoline or desiel?

[SVT5.4]

Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM@Aug 3 2006, 07:36 AM
02vortec bro you keep contradicting your self. Go with the same turbo most people go with. You want to upgrade to a big ass turbo when you looking for low HP, and like i said before a big turbo = lag. I know your car have a somewhat big motor which is more higher CFM going through your intake but you just gave ur self the answer on having a low RPM rev.

About a 76mm .82AR i dont know man i dont think i'd recommend that.


is your car gasoline or desiel?
it is really a 76mm .96AR and yes it is a gasoline.
It is going to be sick!

[HI-BOOST]

I dont know man, im used to boosting 4 bangers not v8's so is a totally different prospective. I know for a "newbie" (no offence) or some what someone with not a big knowledge of turbos is hard to choose "the right turbo" All i can say man is do research and go to people making the same amount of power you looking for and ask them about what turbo they are using and the Pros/Cons Other then that i dont know what the "ideal" turbo for your car.

[jesse6]

4.3L is a v6 btw

[HI-BOOST]

Originally posted by jesse6@Aug 4 2006, 01:17 PM
4.3L is a v6 btw
same difference. :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:

[Fuk_jdm]

Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM+Aug 4 2006, 01:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hi-BoosteDSM @ Aug 4 2006, 01:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jesse6@Aug 4 2006, 01:17 PM
4.3L is a v6 btw
same difference. :lol: :lol: :thumbsup: [/b][/quote]
Dude... this is not a soap opera. Cut the drama, and put that shit on already. If you dont get the desired HP, turn up the boost. If anything swap out for a larger turbo.

[HI-BOOST]

Couldn't agree more.

[fearlessaltima]

what they both said :thumbsup:

[02vortec]

Originally posted by JDM+Aug 4 2006, 09:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JDM @ Aug 4 2006, 09:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM@Aug 4 2006, 01:51 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-jesse6@Aug 4 2006, 01:17 PM
4.3L is a v6 btw
same difference. :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
Dude... this is not a soap opera. Cut the drama, and put that shit on already. If you dont get the desired HP, turn up the boost. If anything swap out for a larger turbo.

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what drama. sorry its not a kit and cant put it on till get fuel system. sorry i have 2 make everything my self with the help of mike svo. i was thinking that hey before i get everything set up with a turbo that cant hit my desired HP then why not sell it now. so it isnt drama its called i gotta full time job and part time job, starting school next week and have very little free time 2 fuck with it. doubt you everydid anything like this when you where in highschool so keep your shit 2 yourself if your just gonna call a ligitimate question drama and jsut assume im stalling.

fucking soap opera. lol go ahead and make your own turbo kit right now from scratch so i can call it drama when you dont have it done in a week. fuckin dick

[HI-BOOST]

OK kids calm your titties now. We friends here and we post of questions and problems in this board looking for some help/guidence/tips/opinions and most important, answers.

Vortec keep the same turbo and boost it up, if it's not enough replace it.

[IMPORTIMAGE]

masterpower/xspower is the garbage when it comes to turbos...don't do it.

[Fuk_jdm]

Originally posted by Hi-BoosteDSM@Aug 4 2006, 11:41 PM
Vortec keep the same turbo and boost it up, if it's not enough replace it.
Thats what I said.

I dont understand why he flipped.

Now my turn to rant.

"Oh my beloved bois of FMR... I dont belive that I am going to acheive my desired HP with this huge ass turbo that I have. Should I just buy a bigger turbo?"

What is the hard part about it? I never said anything about you building your own kit. I know that putting together turbo piping is not hard. (Hard is figuring out chassis reinforcements for a shifterkart with an engine strong enough to break all the welds)

Since you are juggling a million jobs, school, and having to change a tampon every hour, that is just more reason for you to cut the shit, and get this thing done. If it doesnt reach the desired HP, then at least you would already have a working turbo setup, untill you can peice together your next kit, without all the stress of 2 jobs, school, and whatever drama you got going on in your teenage life.

doubt you everydid anything like this when you where in highschool
Just proves that this is "highschool drama".



I dont know why you are being an ass. I am not saying it to be a dick, but just to say that this is something that is getting old. Finish it... see what you get, and if its not what you want, you will have the bragging rights to say that you drive a turbo Blazer, in the meantime that you put together the setup that you want. Its called Logic...

[HI-BOOST]

Originally posted by IMPORTIMAGE@Aug 5 2006, 02:51 PM
masterpower/xspower is the garbage when it comes to turbos...don't do it.
Master Power are known for diesel turbos and trust me they can take a beating.

[IMPORTIMAGE]

yeah it lasted like 10 minutes on my friends car

and on dsm mirage's gsx before it was mine the thing blew up...so thats 2 i know of blowing up...and its not the motor...its the turbo.

[lib1dave]

Originally posted by IMPORTIMAGE@Aug 5 2006, 02:51 PM
masterpower/xspower is the garbage when it comes to turbos...don't do it.
they have really inefficient air flow, what those turbo's are , are the obsolete stage 2 wheels and housing from garret. real junk, that's why garret made new styles but mark(xspower) bought the rights to all the old shit, and I mean shit. when I took one apart and called my boy out at garret he laughed his ass off and told me the story .btw all of the bearing housings are rebuilt not new.